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Town Hall
3 hours ago
Hang in there. When you meet Jesus Christ, He will only ask you about how faithful you were during your pilgrimage. He won't be asking about anyone else. More and more people are leaving in all branches of the Apostolic Churches so the problem is not yours alone.
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Church News
3 hours ago
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creating a new self-insured health plan and not brokering an already existing plan


This may amount to fraud, but, again, the lawyers will sort this out. Full disclosure is always the best way to go.

What I find disturbing is the idea that the money would be "held in trust." That is puzzling because that is not how insurance works.

The other thing that I find disturbing is why anyone would agree to a "joint checking account." I wouldn't have a joint account with anyone other than my spouse because of a number of legal issues that go along with a joint account. Seen too many people cleaned out of joint accounts by their own children in my work, so that's where I come from.

An "understanding"? What's not on paper and signed andor notarized means nothing.

We have a saying in my family--Never Trust; Verify.

Bob
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Faith & Theology
08/14/18 01:58 AM
Originally Posted by dochawk
Originally Posted by ajk

Originally Posted by dochawk
You might take a peak at the Melkite, too--I was stunned to find that they also have this practice . . .
What practice is that?


the hot water added to the cup.

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Why "stunned"?


It originated in churches that were so cold and poorly insulated in winter that the wine freezing was an issue--thus the slavic practice.

The Melkites however, are in a mediterranean climate.

hawk

Zeon preceded the evangelization of the Northern Slavs.
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Town Hall
08/13/18 06:48 PM
They enjoyed it. Sorry I took so long to answer . I hadn't looked here in awhile. The Lord Bless!
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Town Hall
08/10/18 01:30 AM
It is Czekaj in Polish. Or cekaj in Slovak, though cakaj is literary Slovak. It does mean wait.
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The Kliros
08/05/18 07:25 PM
First Annual UGCC Liturgical Singing Conference

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The inaugural and first annual Ukrainian Greco-Catholic Church Liturgical Singing Conference (UGCCSingCon) for cantors, singers, choir directors, clergy, and all those interested in church singing, will be held in Parma, Ohio, from October 5 to 7, 2018, at Pokrova Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church. This gathering is organized by the Patriarchal Liturgical Commission of the UGCC, presided over by His Grace VENEDYKT, Bishop of Chicago, and hosted this year by His Grace BOHDAN, Bishop of Parma. The goal of this conference is to advance the state and quality of Church music in the UGCC.


Further information, including schedule, via the link above.
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Geek Hall
08/04/18 10:56 PM
I have now added Great Vespers for Sundays and Feast Days to this smartphone app, but because of the extra work and lack of revenue from other sources or donors, I'm asking a mere $2.00 per week/feast to access the files. You can find the "premium" button on the app menu named "Great Vespers."

We're also offering Great Vespers (in three files -- Propers, Reader Service for laity, Clergy) as a paid subscription email service -- $10.00 per month. You can subscribe on our website here:

http://ecpubs.com/product-category/subscription_electronic/

Jack
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The Revised Divine Liturgy
08/04/18 04:17 PM

Well it has turned out the conclusion must be delayed since, besides Delehaye, two more works have become available that provide additional insight.

Delehaye's work had been mentioned in a previous post of mine that quoted a footnote in a blog saying:
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The Passio which is based on the eigth [sic]-century anonymous Vita, educatio et miracula of Theodore the Recruit (BHG 1764), was edited by H. Delehaye, Les légendes grecques des saints militaires (Paris, 1909), 183-201, app. V. Vita et miracula (1764).

I had commented that the BHG was not available online but only later found that Delehaye's work is available, the link given in my previous post. (The blog footnote incorrectly identifies the BHG abbreviation as the Bibliographia Hagiographica Graeca when it is actually the Bibliotheca Hagiographica Graeca link.) The blog footnote first mentions the work of Halkin. This is the same Halkin and reference brought to our attention by Fr. David in this thread Post303104, as I noted in Post418387. After some digging I found Halkin's article available online for viewing here page 308. Having this helps to clarify the content of the blog reference, what it is saying. It also illustrates the difficulties of interpreting Theodore's given surname because of presumptions that become attached as part of his name, presumptions that may be understandable but also can germinate a bias. For instance as I noted in a previously referenced posts, Fr. David says

Originally Posted by Fr. David
In 1962 F. Halkin published "The Life of Theodore the Recruit" in Analecta Bollandia LXXX (1962), pp. 308-324.
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Here at face value it seems Theodore is obviously called "the Recruit." But the blog gives it as
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F. Halkin, ‘Un opuscule inconnu du magistre Nicéphore Ouranos (La Vie de S. Théodore le Conscrit)

The main title is about an "opuscule inconnu," an unknown/obscure booklet of Magister Nicephore Ouranos and it is only a parenthetical subtitle that has, in the original Greek (see below) in French translation, Théodore le Conscrit, and that thus becoming Theodore the Recruit, the Conscript, a designation that is an interpretation and designation of Halkin. This may already seem convoluted but there is even more to it as the blog footnote correctly gives a further detail.
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313-324, cf. the title, p. 313: marturion tou hagiou megalomarturos Theodôrou tou tèrônos suggrafen para Nikèforou magistrou tou Ouranou.

So, this article of Halkin is about Nicephorus Ouranos and it is Nicephorus as the author that Halkin writes about in pp 308-313. Then the actual Greek text of the "opuscule inconnu" of Nicephorus is on pp 313-324; the title on 313 is:
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This is the actual title and it is not an unambiguous naming of Theodore as the Recruit/conscrit but analogous to the designation of the author as Nikephorou magistrou tou Ouranou, that is, Nikephor magister of Ouranos or Nikephor magister Ouranos, it is, applying in an analogous manner, Theodorou tou tērōnos, that is, Theodore of tērōnos or Theodore tērōnos.

To reiterate, this reference gives the 10th c. Greek of Nicephorus Ouranos' hagiographic work about Theodore (from a 13th c. manuscript), and Halkin is writing in 1962, not about Theodore per se, but about Nicephorus Ouranos.

Who then is this Nicéphore Ouranos? A nice, short description is give in the body of the blog article with the much discussed footnote. That blog article, BTW, is entitled Fainting fits and their causes: a topos in two Middle Byzantine metaphraseis by Nicetas the Paphlagonian and Nicephorus Ouranos; it is authored by Dirk Krausmüller who writes:
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Nicephorus Ouranos was an aristocrat who served Emperor Basil II (976-1025) in various functions, finally becoming gouvernor of the province of Antioch on the Orontes.10 From his writings it appears that he was a deeply pious man.11 He imitated his mentor Symeon Metaphrastes by leading the life of a monk in the midst of wordly affairs.12 And like Symeon Metaphrastes, Nicephorus Ouranos was an author of hagiographical texts. Apart from the Life of Symeon of the Wondrous Mountain he wrote a Passio of Theodore the Recruit which is also based on an older model.13

Nicaphorus/Nikephoros then was a magistros / μάγιστρος of the same Emperor Basil II whose Menologion was discussed previously. Of the several different spellings for Theodore's surname, in both this Passio by Nicaphorus, as transcribed from a 13th c. Athonite Monastery codex, and the actual 10th c. Menologion of his emperor Basil II, the name/designation is essentially the same Θεοδώρου τόυ/τοῦ τήρωνος.

(to be continued)

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Vespers, Matins & the Divine Liturgy
08/02/18 08:49 PM
Please find below the canonical legislation that pertains to the Ukrainian Greco-Catholic Church in regards to the divine praises.

I have listed them in order of the most general law CCEC to the most particular law.

The section from the Instruction for Applying the Liturgical Prescriptions of the CCEC should not be ignored for it speaks of an attitude and interprets can. 377 of CCEC.


Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches, can. 377 reads:
Canon 377 - All clerics must celebrate the divine praises according to the particular law of their own Church sui iuris.



CHAPTER XIII of the Instruction for Applying . . . .

The Divine Praises

95. Christian prayer

Writing to the Ephesians, Paul the Apostle offers an indicative framework of the elements which should characterize the way in which believers live and especially their prayerful relationship with God: "Be filled with the Spirit, addressing one another [in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and playing to the Lord in your hearts, giving thanks always and for everything in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God the Father" (Eph. 5:18-20). Christian prayer always has its source in the Holy Spirit, who bestows rivers of living water that flow from the glorified Christ (cf. Jn. 7:38-39); it is the Spirit who alone knows the secrets of God (cf. I Cor. 2:11), the only one who knows what and how to pray and intercedes for us in prayer (cf. Rom. 8:26-27).

The believer responds to this gift, is ready to listen to the word of God and offers the readiness of his or her heart to believe that Christ is the Son of God, sent by the Father to accomplish our salvation (cf. Jn. 6:29). The Apostle, in fact, bids us to sing praises to the Lord in our hearts, referring by this expression not just to the abode of sentiments, but to the inmost center of every human being, as shown by Jesus' reprimand of those who surrounded him: "This people honors me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me" (Mt. 15:8).

The Old Testament already calls for prayer seven times a day (cf. Ps. 118 [119]:164) so that it is extended to the entire day. The same precept is insistently reiterated in the New Testament, where the Lord reminds us of the need to "pray always, without becoming weary" (Lk. 18:1).

96. The meaning of the Divine Praises

"Do not be negligent of yourselves, do not deprive the Savior of his own limbs, do not divide his body, do not scatter his members, do not prefer the needs of this world to the word of God, but reunite every day, morning and evening, singing psalms and praying in the house of the Lord."78 The Divine Praises continuously rekindle the spirit of vigilance in the desire for the return of the Lord and sanctify the whole day; recalling the memory of the presence of the Lord, they distribute his grace, permeating and inserting all of existence into the trinitarian life. They sanctify the believer in the dimension of time in which he or she lives, throughout the hours, days, weeks, months and years, as true prayer without interruption, according to the apostolic command. The term itself, "Divine Praises" - related to expressions frequently used in Sacred Scripture and liturgical texts, such as 'sacrifice of praise,' 'spiritual sacrifice,' 'rational sacrifice' - given, in some churches, to the worship that extends to the various hours of the day, points out the religious dimension which transforms the life of man and puts it in personal communion with the Trinity. The unanimous Christian tradition of the East and West has always recognized the multiple forms assumed by monastic life as the privileged place in which this dimension is realized.

The Divine Praises are each Church's school of prayer, instructing in the ancient way of glorifying God in Christ as one Body, in union with and by the example of its Head.

97. Components of the Divine Praises and their importance for knowledge of Eastern spirituality

The celebration of the prayer of time is interwoven with Sacred Scripture, the Word given by God for "teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that one who belongs to God may be competent, equipped for every good work" (2 Tm. 3:16-17). The table of the Word is lavishly prepared not only through the Lectionaries, which gather the biblical texts to be proclaimed and organically arrange them in the order of the liturgical year, but also through the very rich collection of liturgical hymns, of which all the Eastern Churches can be justly proud, which are but the "continuation of the Word which is read, understood, assimilated and finally sung (...) sublime paraphrases of the biblical text, filtered and personalized through the individual's experience and that of the community"79

A rich and prodigiously developed hymnody and euchology constitute probably the most original part of the Eastern liturgical celebrations. Multiple influences, predominantly Syrian and Hellenic, mutually establish and enrich each other to lead to contemplation of the Christian Mystery, according to the global vision of the Fathers of the Church. Compiled by numerous authors, especially by monks who throughout the centuries have unceasingly dedicated themselves to prayer, the texts of the Divine Praises transmit to us as inheritance the very rich and inalienable patrimony of spiritual life. They correspond to the specific features of each of the Eastern Churches, in which they are still deeply rooted. Like the Sacred Scripture, they need to be scrutinized and meditated to reveal the precious pearls they contain. The Divine Praises are, therefore, a privileged place for a study of the Christian spirituality which begins with the prayer of the Church.

98. The communitarian celebration of the Divine Praises is to be restored according to the liturgical books

The Eastern Catholic Churches have often run the risk of omitting the communal and solemn celebration of the Divine Praises, substituting it with individual recitation of the Divine Office, on the part of the clergy, while the daily celebration of the Eucharist has remained often almost the only form of communal liturgy. Where such practice of celebrating the Divine Praises with the people has diminished, if not completely disappeared, the ancient tradition should be restored without delay, so as not to deprive the faithful of a privileged source of prayer, nourished by treasures of authentic doctrine.

It is desired that a renewal of monasticism in the Eastern Catholic Churches, felt as urgent in many places, allow monasteries to once again become the place in which the Divine Praises resound in a privileged and solemn way. Calling upon the time when the Divine Praises were upheld with special care in the East, not only by the monastic communities, but also by the parishes, the Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches reminds us of the obligation - often easily forgotten or abandoned - to celebrate them in the cathedrals, parishes, rectorial churches, religious communities and seminaries.80 It is necessary to observe the prescriptions of the liturgical books (can. 309), but a superficial observance is not sufficient: those responsible must do their best for the faithful to understand the meaning and value of this prayer, love it, take part and find spiritual nourishment in it.81 They ought to thus formed through a true mystagogical program, which allows them to attain nourishment for their own spiritual life from the celebration of the various moments of the liturgical year.

99. Individual prayer of the Divine Praises

Can. 377 of the Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches establishes that "all clerics must celebrate the divine praises according to the particular law of their own Church sui iuris." It is, therefore, an obligation for the clergy. The ideal form of celebration, better manifesting the value of prayer by the Church and for the Church, is certainly communal, which is to be realized and encouraged as a priority. When objective reasons impede a communal form of celebration, clerics are to at least pray individually with the sacred texts of the Divine Praises, constantly interceding in the name of all for the people entrusted to them, for the needs of the Church and the whole world, as befits a good pastor. The authorities of the Churches sui iuris are to establish reasonable norms to regulate such individual prayer, giving preference, after careful study in the selection process of the texts, to the parts which are traditionally more important with respect to the structure of each Church's own liturgy, and taking into account the real possibilities of the clergy. The texts thus elaborated could also be of use, next to the more complete and traditional forms of the Divine Praises, for nurturing the prayer of individuals, families, or groups of the lay faithful.


КАНОНИ ПАРТИКУЛЯРНОГО ПРАВА УКР АЇНСЬКОЇ ГРЕКО-КАТОЛИЦЬКОЇ ЦЕРКВИ
THE CANONS OF THE PARTICULAR LAW OF THE UKRAINIAN GREEK CATHOLIC CHURCH
reads:

Кан. 56
(кан. 377 ККСЦ)
Усі священнослужителі зобов’язані щодня публічно чи приватно молитися принаймні якусь цілісну частину богослужінь добового кола: або утреню, або всі часи, або вечірню, або повечір’я, або північну, − відповідно до можливостей та часу доби, хіба що поважна причина звільняла б їх від цього обов’язку.
Can. 56
(CCEO, can. 377)
All clerics must celebrate at least some integral part of the divine services of the daily cycle every day, publically or privately: or matins, or all the hours, or vespers, or compline, or midnight prayer, considering all possibilities and the time of day, unless a grave reason would release them from this obligation.
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Prayer
08/01/18 03:25 AM
Update: Matter solved temporarily, at least the first half. I am still waiting for acceptance from my new management.
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Faith & Theology
07/30/18 05:33 PM
The Coverdale psalms are older than the KJV but I don't think anyone who is familiar with KJV's style will have any real trouble with the Jordanville psalter. Of course I read Milton and Shakespeare for fun so this stuff is a breeze for me. I did put the link in there for the Holy Dormition Psalter but it doesn't show up too well so here it is again: https://www.dormitionmonastery.org/books.html Just scroll to the bottom to find the Psalter. They say it's based on the KJV but don't let that scare you, it's not in Elizabethan style.
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Faith & Theology
07/28/18 07:48 PM
Or, more likely, the Canons were ignored (either out of ignorance or 'politics') and she was enrolled as a Real Roman Catholic.

Me, cynical? Yes.
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Books
07/27/18 10:59 AM
If I ever win big on the Lottery...
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Liturgical Translations
07/27/18 10:43 AM
Originally Posted by Fr. Al
I may have asked this before. I am an amateur linguist, who has dabbled in every Eastern European language from Finnish in the North to Greek in the South. I am unaware of the St. John Chrysostom Liturgy being translated either into Slovenian or either of the two Wendish/Serbian languages of Germany. It's quite possible that the Serbian church has done a Slovenian translation. I have yet to see it.


I think you may have Sorbian in mind. No, I'm not aware of any translations.

While not Eastern European, one of my favourite translations is into Anglish: The Worshipform of Hl. Johannes Chrysostomos.
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Prayer
07/26/18 01:14 AM
May the Lord God grant eternal rest to His servant, Eileen, in a place of peace, joy and light, where there is no pain, sighing or mourning.

Eternal Memory!
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Church News
07/24/18 10:35 PM
New priest at St.Nicholas, 12th & East Ave. Young and very devout. Attentive to all details. Cordial. Just what a church needs. St. Nicholas has about 40 regular attendees. Now would be a great time to come back to the faith with this man of faith. He serves vespers and holyday services, knowing 2 or 3 people will show up. Unfortunately the neighborhood is a typical rust belt mess and parishioners are not in the neighborhood. With Father Nick I think this church can be turned around. Please give it a though if you are in this area. Lee Anthony
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Faith & Theology
07/24/18 02:51 PM
Glory be to Jesus Christ!!

The title of this thread IMHO should be different--it seems to imply that Melkite absolution is something different from Latin absolution. It's not; it may be a different formula, but the end result is the same--restoration to Baptismal purity by the power the priest is given at ordination.

What a gift!! And what generosity that men still follow the call to be priests in this age where they are vilified by the secular culture. The priest follows the Lord in picking up our wounded person and, like the Good Samaritan, binds up our wounds and heals us with this tremendous gift he has been given.

Thank you to all our priest members today for being who you are and for staying faithful to serving all of us.

Bob
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Prayer
07/24/18 02:43 PM
Glory be to Jesus Christ!!

Prayers continue. Now Thanksgiving.
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The Christian East & West
07/24/18 11:08 AM

Thanks Fr. Deacon, I'll take another look at them. It is the theological underpinnings of the sources that my questions attempt to probe.
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Prayer
07/21/18 11:23 AM
Prayers continue for Helen, that she remain cancer free. And for Archpriest John, that he heal fully.
God grant them both many years!
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Prayer
07/21/18 11:22 AM
May the Lord God grant Mary Margaret a blessed repose. Eternal Memory!
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