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#10127 - 01/26/06 08:41 PM
Catholic & Oriental Orthodox Church Leaders Meet
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I just came across this article that may be of interest to all. It is regarding the Catholic Church's Cardinal Kasper and leaders of the Oriental Orthodox Churches in an ecumenical dialogue meeting. Meeting Story In IC XC, Father Anthony+
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#10129 - 01/27/06 04:22 AM
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Great news Christian Unity for these churchs located in the middle of Islamic fundamentalsim is more important than ever for apostolic christianity to survive in these hostile lands.
Lets hope these talks produce much fruit.
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#10130 - 01/27/06 08:41 AM
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Dear Michael, You stated: I always wonder why Cardinal Kasper is heading these dialogue, why can't an Eastern Catholic prelate (Patriarch Ignathios, for example) do it? I believe the answer lies in the fact that we are Sui Iuris , yet still servants of Rome. Putting that aside, I am always excited when attempts are made to mend the bridges that exist between East and West. I pray that we heal the Church of Christ and that I may be worthy to see it within my lifetime. In Christ, Michael
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#10132 - 01/27/06 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by lost&found: Dear Michael,
You stated:
I always wonder why Cardinal Kasper is heading these dialogue, why can't an Eastern Catholic prelate (Patriarch Ignathios, for example) do it?
Putting that aside, I am always excited when attempts are made to mend the bridges that exist between East and West. I pray that we heal the Church of Christ and that I may be worthy to see it within my lifetime.
In Christ,
Michael I have to agree with Michael Thoma when he asks why an Eastern prelate could not lead the delegation, though I do understand that we are "servants of Rome" (though I consider myself to be a servant of Christ before anyone or anything else). yeah, we have Patriarchs, Major Archbishops and Metropolitans aplenty, and I guess that if one of them had led a mixed delegfation, or even one that was strictly Eastern, that it would have been a better move as we deal with our seperated siblings, as we really would have plenty in common to talk about. Much Love, Jonn
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#10133 - 01/27/06 11:37 AM
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This International Commission is for the dialogue between the Oriental Orthodox Churches and THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. The dicastery tasked to pursue these interfaith dialogues globally is the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity (PCPCU) under Cardinal Kasper, who is its President. The PCPCU acts for and in behalf of the universal Catholic Church. Cardinal Kasper selects the Catholic representatives to this International Commission and, logically, he has chosen additional members from the Oriental Catholic Churhces as counterparts of the Oriental Orthodox Churches. This International Commission is "younger" than the International Commission for dialogue between the Eastern Orthodox Churches and the Catholic Church. The Oriental Orthodox Churches have an older on-going dialogue with the Catholic Church in North America, established in 1978. The resulting documents can be acessed at: http://www.usccb.org/seia/dialogues.htm For an overview on the works of the PCPCU, please refer to the Vatican website . Oriental Catholics are not being consciously shut out of the dialogues. Transparency is held dear by the PCPCU and by its President, Cardinal Kasper. There is just a need for leadership and coordination. Amado P.S. The delegates to the Second Meeting of the International Commission were listed at: http://www.armenianprelacy.org/021605b.htm
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#10134 - 01/27/06 07:24 PM
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"Oriental Catholics are not being consciously shut out of the dialogues. Transparency is held dear by the PCPCU and by its President, Cardinal Kasper. "
Yeah, right.
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#10137 - 01/28/06 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Incognitus: "Oriental Catholics are not being consciously shut out of the dialogues. Transparency is held dear by the PCPCU and by its President, Cardinal Kasper. "
Yeah, right. Do you know anything that we don't know? Or, is it a case of an infantile triumphalism on your part? It seems you cannot get over with the reality that not one of the Eastern Catholic Churches can, by herself, undertake ecumenical talks with their respective counterparts in Orthodoxy. And would the heirarchy of the Oriental Orthodox Churches be willing to meet with their "lesser" counterparts in Eastern Catholicism? Amado
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#10138 - 02/01/06 08:33 PM
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This is a follow-up post to the original news story that was published by ZENIT yesterday. In IC XC, Father Anthony+ Code: ZE06013105
Date: 2006-01-31
Catholic-Orthodox Panel Analyzes 3 Topics
Theological-Dialogue Meeting Ends in Armenia
VATICAN CITY, JAN. 31, 2006 (Zenit.org).- At its third meeting an international commission for theological dialogue between the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches studied three key topics linked to the idea of ecclesial communion.
The meeting, of the Mixed International Commission for Theological Dialogue between the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Churches, ended on Monday in Etchmiadzin, Armenia. The panel aims to help overcome a 1,500-year schism.
Invited by His Holiness Karekin II, Catholicos of All Armenians, the meeting was attended by two delegations headed, respectively, by Cardinal Walter Kasper, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, and Metropolitan Amba Bishoy of the Orthodox Coptic Church.
A Holy See communiqué said that participants in the meeting analyzed "three topics of study and dialogue related to the central subject of the Church as communion."
The three topics were: "bishops in the apostolic succession, the relationship between primacy and synods/collegiality, and the functioning and ecclesiological importance of synods at the local and ecumenical level."
Two expositions were presented on each of these topics, one Catholic, the other Orthodox.
The Ancient Churches of the East (also called Orthodox) separated both from Rome as well as from the Byzantine Orthodox Churches at the Council of Chalcedon in 451.
Remaining outside the influence of the Roman Empire, they developed their own traditions in theological and ecclesiastical aspects.
In the meeting, the Catholic and Orthodox delegations had 14 members each. Established in 2003, the commission met in Cairo, Egypt, in 2004, and in Rome last year.
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