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#12182 - 11/27/05 07:55 PM Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
coptic_one Offline
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Registered: 11/27/05
Posts: 1
Loc: So. Cal
Has anyone got any info about this?? I visited the monastery yesterday on my way home from St. Antony Coptic Monastery and the monks didnt say anything about it. www.hrmonline.org

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#12183 - 11/27/05 09:12 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Fr Maximos Offline
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Registered: 05/06/02
Posts: 54
Loc: Newberry Springs, CA
I would certainly encourage interested people to visit our web page and read the statement there. There is really nothing to add, except to ask, again, for your prayers.

unworthy monk Maximos
Holy Resurrection Monastery
www.hrmonline.org

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#12184 - 11/27/05 10:55 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
John Cross Offline
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Registered: 01/30/02
Posts: 33
Loc: NJ
Thanks Fr Maximos.

I did check out the website for your monastery and was encourage when I read that this change will hopefully allow you to respond to "planting" other monastic foundations across the US. May it please God to bring this about....especially out here in the East Coast.

God bless you and your community.

John, a sinner

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#12185 - 11/28/05 12:17 AM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Steve Petach Offline
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Registered: 11/09/01
Posts: 645
Loc: Reseda CA
Finally, after a long wait Holy Resurrection Monastery can move forward! It is sad that our own Eparch didn't much care for such a wonderful monastery. I had hoped that the Eparch(y) of Van Nuys would realise what a treasure they had in Holy Resurrection Monastery. May Bishop John (Botean) prove to be a good match for HRM!

May they continue to prosper!

Steve

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#12186 - 11/28/05 12:24 AM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Pavel Ivanovich Offline
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Registered: 07/03/03
Posts: 2799
Loc: Western Australia
What wonderful news. Now hopefully the speculation will cease with this transfer within the Catholic Church which has the blessing of the whole church to continue witness to monastercism as they do. The monastery is still where it has always been and everyone is welcome to visit or be in contact as before. People come from far and near to Newberry springs, some even cross the planet.

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#12187 - 11/28/05 12:28 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Joe T Offline
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Registered: 01/19/02
Posts: 2927
Loc: Ohio
"Finally, the Ruthenian Catholics already have a well-established monastic presence in the United States ..."

This was from the statement mentioned above. What sort of "monastic presence" does the Ruthenian Catholic Church now have?

Is it Eastern?

Is it a hybrid?

I can't think of any good role models of Eastern Monasticism in this particular Church?

What sort? Please tell.

God bless the monks of Holy Resurrection Monastery. I know they will receive good care with the Romanians, who are willing to move foreward with new wineskins.

Joe

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#12188 - 11/28/05 02:25 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Chtec Offline
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Registered: 01/27/02
Posts: 1933
Loc: Sharon/Hermitage, PA
Quote:
Originally posted by J Thur:
...who are willing to move foreward with new wineskins.
Hopefully they get the Romanian wine to go with the Romanian wineskins. Mmm, mmm, Romanian wine is quite tasty. biggrin

La multi ani!

Dave

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#12189 - 11/28/05 03:46 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Reznut Offline
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Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 155
Loc: Orange County, California
As many of you know, I am great supporter of Holy Resurrection Monastery. I am so THRILLED that this has finally gone through! This is indeed a great blessing to Holy Resurrection Monastery, Holy Theophany Women's Community, and all monastic hopefuls (such as myself).

I pray that all the Catholic and Orthodox Churches will be touched by the Holy Spirit to see how much our world needs many, many more monastics to lift us up out of the ocean of depravity our society is drowning in. The prayers of monastics are needed now more than ever before!

Though it may be a loss for the Ruthenian Church (at least in the eyes of some of us), sometimes loss is needed in order for us to understand the importance of what we once took for granted or undervalued. It is time for all of us to take inventory of our priorities. Sometimes we think something is a waste of time and money if you do not see instant results. However, a tree needs to grow his roots deep under the ground (unseen) before he can become a mighty giant. Monastics are our root system. We need their prayers to help our Church grow in holiness.

Our dear, sweet Lord! Bless Holy Resurrection Monastery and their Bishop John (Botean).

Amen.

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#12190 - 11/28/05 03:47 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
MadeforCommunion Offline
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Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 75
Loc: Arizona
I'm not sure exactly what this means or what the Monastery hopes to accomplish by doing this?

In addition, Romanians are of the Byzantine tradition, correct, why do the Ruthenians, the Romanians, and all others of Byzantine tradtion join forces, so to speak?

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#12191 - 11/28/05 03:58 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Reznut Offline
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Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 155
Loc: Orange County, California
I must also quickly add that I do not see the change to Romanian as an earth-shaking issue for the rest of us. HRM is still Byzantine Catholic. They are still within the Family of Churches.

This move was not a revolution nor should it be made to look like it by those of us not directly involved with the situation.

God bless.

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#12192 - 11/28/05 04:02 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
MadeforCommunion Offline
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Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 75
Loc: Arizona
How many monks are at Holy Resurrection? How long has it been around? Are there any other monasteries? Are there any other monasteries that are trying to get started?

I am very interested about this topic, as I think it would be awesome for the monastic presence of Eastern Catholicism grow.

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#12193 - 11/29/05 08:40 AM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Pavel Ivanovich Offline
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Registered: 07/03/03
Posts: 2799
Loc: Western Australia
Check their internet site all the answers are there.

As for union with other byzantine churches in the USA or anywhere, I doubt it. You only have to look at the separate Ukrainian & Ruthenian diocese. There are too many things that divide them. Maybe in the years to come when they become more American and less linked to their mother churches. The important thing at present is that they work together and cater for all their peoples needs in the broader Catholic church.

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#12194 - 11/29/05 12:19 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Joe T Offline
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Registered: 01/19/02
Posts: 2927
Loc: Ohio
Any info on Ruthenian Catholic monastic communities in the Pittsburgh Metropolia?

How many went over to Orthodoxy?

How many were sacked by bishops with all the monastic clergy sent out to staff parishes?

Are the Byzantine Franciscans and Byzantine Benedictines (Butler, PA) still kicking? or did Rome assign them all to the episcopacy?

Without Holy Resurrection Monastery in the Pittsburgh Metropolia, what exactly are we left with?

What is the future of Ruthenian Catholic monasticism without HRM?

Is this all just an example of what Fr. Thomas Loya means by "dismantling" the church? After it is all dismantled, where do we build anew, if permitted? What is the blueprint? Or will future communities end up like HRM? Does Eastern Christian monasticism have a chance in the Pittsburgh Metropolia?

Joe

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#12195 - 11/29/05 01:13 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Fr. Deacon Lance Offline
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Registered: 08/29/98
Posts: 3810
Loc: Washington, PA
Joe,

For men:

Holy Trinity Monastery OSB Pittsburgh

Holy Dormition Monastery OFM Passaic

Mariapoch Monastery OSBM Passaic

St. Francis Monastery BBSF Van Nuys

Christ the Good Shepherd Monastery Van Nuys

For women:

St. Macrina Monastery OSBM Pittsburgh

Queen of Heaven Monastery OSB Pittsburgh

Holy Annunciation Monastery OCD Passaic

Holy Protection Monastery OSC Parma

Fr. Deacon Lance
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#12196 - 11/29/05 01:17 PM Re: Holy Resurrection Monastery changing ???
Jim Offline
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Registered: 08/02/02
Posts: 1039
Loc: Arizona
Joe, I suggest you read the information on the HRM website. It mentions the ability to work nationally without encountering jurisdictional boundaries. With the Roumanians they can do that more easily, since the entire country is under one bishop.

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