I guess I killed this topic with my last post.

you sure did ,
thanks.

ilya

Dear Friends,

Certainly, the Black Madonna icon in the East, as I understand, represents the "Mother of Light."

Just as anything we put up to the sun turns dark, so too does the skin of the Mother of God who is "clothed with the sun."

The rich, black earth is also symbolically represented.

Alex

You have a thing with dark skin now, don't you Alex?

Dear Diak,

Actually, I'm more in the red right now . . .

Alex

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Nice picture of St. Mykola Charnetsky, Illya. Have a holy Lazarus Saturday and Palm Sunday this weekend.

Diak<<Nice picture of St. Mykola Charnetsky, Illya.>>

Diak, who was Mykola Charnetsky? Nice old photo. If this hierarch wasn't Eastern Orthodox, he sure dressed the part!

OrthodoxEast

The Winnipeg Archeparchy has documents from the beatification of the Ukrainian New Martyrs.

http://www.archeparchy.ca/archeparchy/martyrs.htm#Materials

Please, use 'Nikolai', it is the proper (church)form of the name in ukrainian.

HOLY FATHER NIKOLAI OF SEMAKIVTSI AND VOLHYN' PRAY TO GOD FOR US!

Dear Ilya,

It's "Mykolai" if you want to be so Ukrainian about it!

But ultimately, both St Mykolai and St Vasyl Velichkovsky "dressed the part" in Volyn to bring Orthodox into communion with Rome.

St Vasyl mentions three Pochaiv monks and two Orthodox theologians who came into communion with Rome through his mission efforts and who died as martyrs.

Alex

Isn't that rather "Fifth Columnist" activity??

I would't be to sure of that Alex. Firsly, Nikolai is the church form of the name, and when have I ever been ukrainian about anything? I would just like to take this oppertunity to say

HOLY GOD, RESTORE THE TSAR AND HAVE MERCY ON RUS', AMEN!

Have you ever thought that it might have been the other way around with Saint Nikolai of Volhin', maybe instead of trying to get people to "return to catholisism" or "return to orthodoxy", he was simply being an example for us. Trying to live in peace with our fellow bretheren, orthodox or catholic. It has been my experience that if you pray like the orthodox (this includes dressing the part) after a while they forget why they never liked you. I am convinced that unity will not come from "you convert to us" but rather praying together. Unfortunately most of the byzantine catholic church is no longer recognizable to any orthodox.
When the local ROCOR priest came to do a funeral at my church his comment was "there isn't anything catholic about it!". This is the direction we need to move in.

BEHOLD HOW GOOD AND HOW PLEASENT IT IS WHEN BROTHERS DWELL TOGETHER IN UNITY.

'nough said.

ilya

hello ILYA,

You dont know me but Im from STS V and O in Chicago. I met your dad in Arizona this past fall and he told me our peeps and your ideas are one in the same. We are renewing out youth brotherhood which your uncle is very familiar with and was wondering if you had anything we could use to start off like reatreat type stuff or something. I heard you guys have a nice youth group. That question goes out to everyone out there.

Well, nice to meet ya via cyber space.

Hospody, spasy y sokhrany Patriarkha nashoho.

XPUCTOC BOCKPEC!

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