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Mass "outsourced" to India #163879
04/28/04 08:44 AM
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Recently in the news, outsourcing has become a major topic of discussion. Outsourcing seems to have found its way to the Church biggrin


Mass Intentions Outsourced to India

Re: Mass "outsourced" to India #163880
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Fr Deacon John,

This, in the UK , is not new news at all . For many years as the number of priests has shrunk this has been the custom.

Here the Priests , as I have been told , are not permitted to accept an offering/donation for more than 1 Mass per day so they are normally accepted and forwarded to the Missions. I was a little surprised when I first heard of this - but it does make sense.


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XB!

This happens in the US among some Ruthenians as well.

Re: Mass "outsourced" to India #163882
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The Latin Code does not permit a priest to accept more than one donation for one mass a day. They may however, accept as many intentions as Masses they are going to say. However, the Latin Code allows only one intention per Mass.

The Eastern Code permitted priests to resume the traditional custom of multiple intentions per Liturgy or other services like Panahida/Moleben. I do not remember if priests were limited to one donation per day, I think they were not which is probably why the Syro-Malabar bishops had to limit the priests to one.

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Re: Mass "outsourced" to India #163883
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Angela,

yes, I knew that. What I found interesting was that someone chose to refer to the practice as "outsourcing". :rolleyes:

Re: Mass "outsourced" to India #163884
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The Eastern Code permitted priests to resume the traditional custom of multiple intentions per Liturgy or other services like Panahida/Moleben.
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Dear Deacon Lance,

Christ is risen!

Interesting. This is not what guys who went to school with me who are now BC priests have told me. Perhaps they are misinformed? Also, if one looks at the bulletins never is more than one intention listed per Liturgy. I guess they are all wrong.

Honorarium given for a moleben, panachida or any other service is vastly different from the stipend given for Liturgy it would seem.

Tony

Re: Mass "outsourced" to India #163885
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Actually, India is outsourcing to America.

They are gracious to share their priests with the Roman Catholic Church, which is truly a blessing. As is are many of the Diocese in Africa.

Fr. Charlie from India, is a wonderful priest at ST. Vincents Hospital, just an awesome man of God. All the ones I have met have been delightful.

May God bless the Roman Catholic Church in America with many more of their outsourced priest. Arrangements like the local ordinary has here with his counterpart in India is working very well for both diocese. Evangelize us Lord!

Thank you Jesus,
Pani Rose

Re: Mass "outsourced" to India #163886
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Tony,

Indeed He is risen!

No, not all wrong. What the Eastern Code permits and what a particular church permits could be two different things. As you state I think our Metropolia has opted to retain the Latin rules they had been using in regards to stipends for Liturgies. I don't know if there are rules in place for Panahidas or Molebens.

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No, not all wrong. What the Eastern Code permits and what a particular church permits could be two different things. As you state I think our Metropolia has opted to retain the Latin rules they had been using in regards to stipends for Liturgies. I don't know if there are rules in place for Panahidas or Molebens.
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Rules, rules, rules!

Forget the stipends. We should do what my Jewish friends do at their temple/synagogue. Charge people at least $250 to attend the High Holy Days. No money; no admittance.

And then let the clergy pray for everyone.

I believe I saw a stipend calculator (next to the finance calculators) at Office Max today that might make things easier for everyone around. And I think Dummys-Are-Us wrote a CD program too.

Joe

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Dear Deacon Lance,

Christ is risen!

In your posts does "donation" and "intention" equal stipend?

Thanks!

Tony


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