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#18759 - 04/02/05 02:00 PM Re: A Papal Succession Primer
Deacon John Montalvo Offline
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Originally posted by Tony:
Well Randy, in Spanish El Papa is The Pope, la papa is the potatoe.

T
Tony,

did you attend spelling class with former VP Dan Quayle? :p

In all candor, the definitive primer on papal succession /election is the Apostolic Constitution, Universi Dominici Gregis

Hear O Lord, our prayers for the Servant of the servants of God, the Holy Father, John Paul, Pope of Rome, and at the moment of his falling asleep in You, grant him a safe and peaceful journey and place him with your Saints in the glorious light of Your Presence, where there is no pain, sorrow, nor mourning! O Gracious Lord hear us and have mercy!

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#18760 - 04/02/05 02:02 PM Re: A Papal Succession Primer
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Dear Tony:

No, it is Ilocano, the language of Northern Philippines, 2nd or 3rd largest of the 7 major Filipino languages. Pilipino is the "national" language, based on Tagalog.

All of the major languages were later influenced by Spanish. But those Filipinos you heard speaking in "Spanish" might have been Chavacanos, a minority (from Cavite and Zamboanga) who sprinkle their "Spanish" with some Pilipino words!

The Philippines, as a country, spoke Spanish up to the 1920s or even later. But with the American colonization in place since 1898, English became more and more the 2nd language of the majority.

By the 1960s, our Congress passed a law removing Spanish as a required language to learn. We lost our hispanic indentity by then and became those "little brown Americans!" Fortunately, we remained Catholic to this day (3rd largest in the world next to Brazil and Mexico), courtesy of madre Espana.

Today, you hear Filipinos speaking in "Taglish," a crazy combination of Pilipino, Spanish, and English, reflecting our 3 official languages.

However "Papa," with the accent on "a" as you correctly put, is also the term of endearment for a "father" for ALL Filipinos, Ilocanos included!

I really don't know how and why Ilocanos came to call wild ducks "papa" (without the accent) because we, likewise, call domesticated ducks, male or female, "pato!" "Pata" to us is not a female duck but refers to pork hock! biggrin

Amado

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#18761 - 04/02/05 02:03 PM Re: A Papal Succession Primer
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Dan Quayle..... I wonder what happen to him now.... anyone have an update?

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#18762 - 04/02/05 02:17 PM Re: A Papal Succession Primer
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Quote:
Originally posted by Deacon John Montalvo:
Quote:
Originally posted by Tony:
Well Randy, in Spanish El Papa is The Pope, la papa is the potatoe.

T
Tony,

did you attend spelling class with former VP Dan Quayle? :p
Reverend,

Looks like it, huh? I never really got those silent vowels in English. Sorry if it offends, my English spelling used to be good...used to be. Not any more frown

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#18763 - 04/02/05 02:19 PM Re: A Papal Succession Primer
Deacon John Montalvo Offline
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Tony,

just a gentle ribbing...

have a blessed Fast!

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#18764 - 04/02/05 05:11 PM Re: A Papal Succession Primer
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I really don't know how and why Ilocanos came to call wild ducks "papa" (without the accent) because we, likewise, call domesticated ducks, male or female, "pato!" "Pata" to us is not a female duck but refers to pork hock! biggrin

Amado
Amado,

Of course, pata is also paw in Spanish biggrin

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#18765 - 04/03/05 08:47 PM Re: A Papal Succession Primer
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Amadeus, forgive me if this was posted someplace else (I couldn't find it). Is there a listing somewhere on the web of the names and rite/church of the eastern cardinals?

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