I was wondering if there was a place on the forum where I could find a list of commonly used names of things associated with the Byzantine religion and church service? I do understand that "Byzatnine" is a rather large umbrella and would include Carpatho-Rusyn as well as many other languages and cultures, but some place with some things that are in common? For instance, even tough I was an altar boy for many, many years as a child (current age-46) I can't for the life of me recall the slavonic name for the incensor. Was it a cadija (kuh-dee-uh)? Things like that. I have an eight year old son who is intensely interested in what I did at his age and I tell him stories of getting up myself at 6am six days a week, getting ready and walking the two blocks to church to serve mass. All by myself. (A small coal mining town in Western Pennsylvania.) This is something that probably could not be done today, due to safety reasons. I know I would not let my eight year old do it by himself. But some of the names of things have just slipped my mind. Early onset Alzheimer's? I know there are places where there are some names of vestments and other things associated with mass. But not a very comprehensive list. Any ideas? And how about that cadija? Am I on crack cocaine or just having memory problems?

Tim

The word for the incensor is Kadylo. You were close

Other common words that come to mind:

Kivot= Tabernacle
Prestil= Altar
Phelon= Priest's outer vestment
Vladyka= Bishop
Otets= Father/Priest
Tserkva/Khram= Church
Sluzhba Bozha= Divine Liturgy/Mass
Prychastya= Communion
Apostol= Epistle Book
Sviato= Holiday
Pokhoron= Funeral
Panakhyda= Memorial Service
Zalya= Church hall
Praznyk= Church feastday
Pascha= Easter
Rizdvo= Christmas
Pist= Lent
Pylypivka= Pre-Christmas/Advent fast
Khor= Choir
Khrest= Cross
Molytovnyk= Prayerbook/Missal
Poklony= Prostrations/ Great Bows
Sviaty Mykolai= St. Nicholas

Hopefully this helps.

-uc

p.s. Ever put popcorn in the Kadylo?

Slava Isusu Chistu! Thanks, I was close on the incensor. Give yourself a raise! In fact, double your salary. Just tell them I said it was ok. (Don't spend it yet, wait a few days for the paperwork to go through.)

Timbo the bimbo

Hospodi Pomiliju! I just noticed the bit about popcorn in the kadylo! I'll try that sometime. I have a small brass incensor I use to light incense. My son loves the smell, especially in the winter time. I have to be careful otherwise the smoke detector goes off. But I will try it. My son will love it! Duse Moje!

T

Tim,

Scroll to the bottom of the page at Byzantines.net - FAQ - Terms

For any interested, there is also a Glossary of Maronite Terms on-line, from Father Anthony Salim's primer for Maronite Catholics.

Many years,

Neil

A few other resources from my favorites list:

Glossary of Ukrainian Terms from Immaculate Conception UGCC in Hillside, NJ

Glossary Comparing Byzantine and Latin Terms from Saint Elias in Brampton

Dictionary of Orthodox Terminology from the GOAA's wonderful website

Glossary of Eastern Orthodox Terms - an excellent glossary, would that the webmaster would change the background though

Glossary of Orthodox Terminology from the Antiochian Archdiocese's site

Many years,

Neil

Neil when Forums Catholic gets back up, could you copy or if you have it copied elsewhere, the information that you had created on the Rites of the Catholic Church. It would also be an excellent reference page for here, it is very comprehensive and readable. That way we could get attached to a permant place to send people too.

Pani Rose

Father Loya might actually get a laugh out of popcorn in the kadylo but even I don't have the courage to try it.

CDL

Rose,

I'd be happy to do so. There's actually an earlier edition of it somewhere here, but the version at CA is more up to date.

Many years,

Neil

Neil and Pani Rose:

I saved Neil's earlier version (2005), complete with the current hierarchs, and, if you give permission, I can paste them here for reference.

Neil has to make further correction to the status of the Romanian Catholic Church, which is now a Major Archiepiscopal Church.

It might take 3 or 4 separate postings.

Amado

WEll Amado that was quick.

Thanks to the wonderful Admin and Moderators

I would say go for it. Maybe get with Neil and see if he can make the changes.

Thanks,
Pani Rose

Amado, my brother and friend,

Hold off on pasting up the old one, as I found a revised version that I had the foresight to copy into Word. I was reviewing it for accuracy last night, but the after-effects of dental torture and its attendant medication made me leery of being too sure of my proofing and editing.

Many years,

Neil

Neil,

It may make for an interesting read, especially after the medication . Pity we have to experience that though. Hope all will be better.

In IC XC,
Father Anthony+

As you wish, my old and venerable friend!

Amado

Sorry, pet peeve time...
The Divine Liturgy = Bozhestvenna Liturhija (Божественна Літургія in Ukrainian). I realise tha many people use "Sluzhba Bozha" when referring to the Liturgy, but "Sluzhba Bozha" means "God's service", or more idiomatically, a 'Divine service'.

The Divine Liturgy is a Divine Service, but not all Divine Service are Liturgies (i.e. the Eucharistic service). Vespers is a 'Sluzhba Bozha', so is Matins, a Moleben, etc.

Personally, I feel that using Sluzhba Bozha for the Liturgy leads people to think that any 'sluzhba' (service) must be Eucharistic. (I haven't done a study - this is just based on personal observation / ancedotal evidence.) A great example is funerals. Nearly every EC funeral I've been to / heard of has had two elements: a panakhyda and a 'requiem' Liturgy. Where is the parastas?!? People feel short-changed if a service doesn't include a Liturgy. I think they have been short-changed by not being taught about the fullness of the Divine Office.

Sorry, uc, this was not meant as a rant directed at you personally. I don't have many trigger points, but you manged to hit a very sensitive one.

If people feel a need to discuss this topic, perhaps we can start a thread in Faith & Worship, rather than hijacking this one?

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