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"The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195959 04/26/06 03:46 AM
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Anyone have any insight into "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?"

http://www.orthodoxcatholicchurch.org/index.html

Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195960 04/26/06 05:38 AM
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Check out the website. Women "priests" (termed Mother) and deacons. They also want to get rid of the term marriage and call it "covenant mystery." It sounds like a rogue bishop ordained someone about 100 years ago and this is what we get.

To Paraphrase Voltaire: The Orthodox-Catholic Chruch of America is neither Orthodox or Catholic.

Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195961 04/26/06 07:15 AM
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15 guys playing church in the garage.

Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195962 04/26/06 07:23 AM
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Check out the "clergy" photos, what's the deal with "Mother" Lynn Walker.. if you know what I mean?

Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195963 04/26/06 07:32 AM
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I found an article on one of their "priests":

Richard Cleaver

RUN when you see the name of Rene Vilatte anywhere...

Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195964 04/26/06 11:12 AM
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15 guys playing church in the garage.
16, and it's a mix of men and women, at their own retreat center. Third photo from the top.

http://www.crosswood.org/photos.html

Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195965 04/26/06 11:19 AM
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It sounds like a rogue bishop ordained someone about 100 years ago and this is what we get.
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I found an article on one of their "priests":

Richard Cleaver

RUN when you see the name of Rene Vilatte anywhere...
I think this paragraph pretty much summarizes the OCCA, from http://www.no-nukes.org/viapacis/may03richardcleaver.html

"The OCCA is an Orthodox Christian jurisdiction originally organized in Wisconsin in 1892 as an English-speaking alternative to ethnic Orthodox churches. Its first communities were Belgian immigrants who had no French-speaking clergy and did not accept the dogma of papal infallibility as defined at the First Vatican Council in 1870. The first Archbishop, Rene Vilatte, was consecrated in Colombo by three bishops of the Syrian Orthodox Malankara Church of India. (Our own Brian Terrell was baptized in one of the churches Archbishop Vilatte founded, near Green Bay; it is now a Roman Catholic parish.)There are both Western-rite and Eastern-rite congregations. Unlike the Roman Catholic Church or other Orthodox jurisdictions, the OCCA ordains women and celebrates the union of same-sex couples. Its clergy are unpaid and most parishes own no church buildings of their own, instead worshiping in homes or borrowed premises."


-- John

Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195966 04/26/06 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Dr. Eric:
Check out the website. Women "priests" (termed Mother) and deacons. They also want to get rid of the term marriage and call it "covenant mystery." It sounds like a rogue bishop ordained someone about 100 years ago and this is what we get.

To Paraphrase Voltaire: The Orthodox-Catholic Chruch of America is neither Orthodox or Catholic.
You said it... maybe they ought to go Roman Catholic, and move to L.A. They'd fit right in there in Mahony-Land, where women twirl around barefoot with bowls of incense.

God bless,

Karen

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[b] 15 guys playing church in the garage.
16, and it's a mix of men and women, at their own retreat center. Third photo from the top.

http://www.crosswood.org/photos.html [/b]
Now, that is what I call an eclectic mish-mosh.

Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195968 04/26/06 01:28 PM
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15 guys playing church in the garage.
Yup. That about sums it up!

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Originally posted by Michael_Thoma:Check out the "clergy" photos, what's the deal with "Mother" Lynn Walker.. if you know what I mean?
No kidding! That is one of the most masculine looking women I've ever seen (and I'm including Janet Reno in the list). Scary! eek

Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195969 04/26/06 01:50 PM
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It's amazing how the modern Western heresies slip into every crack and corner of anything even close to Christianity. Just when i think i've seen it all, boom!

i'd also add that these people need prayers, too. May God have mercy on these folks.

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A time is coming when people will go mad and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad, you are not like us.'
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I have been following up the claims of the bishops in this cult to valid orders. Seems the weak link with this lot is with Bishops in India. I think there are many of these home kit type churches around all claiming one or more links to the genuine churches. It does seem a bit like adults playing at dress ups.

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Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195971 04/26/06 04:50 PM
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If they give one person hope or bring one person closer to God, then they are doing His work. God bless them in their ministry.

Re: "The Orthodox Catholic Church of America?" #195972 04/26/06 06:31 PM
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Dear Friends,

At one point, I studied a number of these groups and got to know some of their ministers.

They are quite fascinating - everything from the "Celtic Orthodox" who canonized "St John Scotus" of the ninth century and "St Morgan of Wales" (who, as it turns out, is none other than . . . Pelagius!) to the Rene Villatte people who have canonized "St Afthimios Olfiesh" and "St Theophane Noli." Then there is the Evangelical Catholic Church, a Lutheran-based group, who allow their clergy to commemorate Martin Luther . . .

The group noted above commemorate not only Catholic and Orthodox saints, but Anglican commemorations as well . . .

Cheers,

Alex

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Oh dykes! Oh! I mean Yikes!

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