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#197132 03/14/03 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by Scotus:
A little bit of musical trivia here that will help you appreciate the song.

...You can sing the 'Gilligan's Island' song lyrics to the Amazing Grace melody

and vice versa of course biggrin

So the next time you hear 'Amazing Grace' take some time out to "Sit right back and you'll hear a tale.."

-Brendan
You can also sing "Izhe Cheruvimy" to the melody of "Amazing Grace." Comes in handy for all those Southern Baptist-Orthodox/Byzantine Catholic crossover services. wink

"Izhe Cheruvimy" also works with the melody of "What a friend I have in Jesus" and "Nearer my God to thee" and a slew of other Protestant hymns.

Who knew?

-Dave

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Dear Chtec Dave:

Bravo! Made me laugh out loud.

Yours,

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Thanks, Dave,

For your affirmative answer to the original question raised by Paromer: "Does it fit in with Eastern Church spirituality?" biggrin :p

Of course it does!!! All true spirituality is ours, supplied to us by the Holy Spirit.

Others are wandering in partial or complete darkness, and they need us --- to bring them the "Amazing Grace" we have received from the Lord. smile

Although our worship is the collective of the Church gathered together, each of us will be guided on our own spiritual path and will have to account for our own self at the final Judgement.


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You can also sing "Izhe Cheruvimy" to the melody of "Amazing Grace." Comes in handy for all those Southern Baptist-Orthodox/Byzantine Catholic crossover services.

"Izhe Cheruvimy" also works with the melody of "What a friend I have in Jesus" and "Nearer my God to thee" and a slew of other Protestant hymns.

Who knew?

-Dave


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Dear Friends,

Do you like the hymn Amazing Grace?

Does it have a place in Eastern Church spirituality?

Paul

The lyrics:

Amazing grace! How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.

'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved.
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed.

Through many dangers, toils and snares
I have already come;
'Tis grace hath brought me safe thus far
And grace will lead me home.

The Lord has promised good to me
His word my hope secures;
He will my shield and portion be,
As long as life endures.

Yea, when this flesh and heart shall fail,
and mortal life shall cease,
I shall possess within the veil,
A life of joy and peace.

When we've been there ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun,
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we've first begun.

John Newton 1725-1807 (stanza 6 Anon)
I also happen to like singing "Amazing Grace". After all, it is amazing, that the Lord would grant any Grace to an unworthy sinner like myself.


John
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Originally posted by CopticOrthodox:

We sing this hymn to our liturgical tune, I never would have guessed it was an Anglican hymn:

Good Christian men and women, rejoice
With heart and soul and voice;
Give ye heed to what we say:
Jesus Christ was born today!

Just a note: in the Anglican Hymnal the original lyrics were "Good Christian men, Rejoice". This was "fixed" to "Good Christian friends, rejoice."
*wince*

Having "men and women" doesn't scan or fit the tune.

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The Metrical Index in the Episcopal Hymnal can be used for great entertainment in fitting melodies and words of the same meter together. The tune "Old Hundredth" fits "Jabberwocky" and it's words fit "Hernando's Hideaway" (including the "amen").

Similarly, The Marine's Hymn, "Clementine" and "The Ode to Joy" are interchangeable.

Strange things happen at choir practice sometimes.
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To teach us about poetic meter my 9th grade English teacher had us sing the opening stanzas of the Rime of the Ancient Mariner to various Christmas Carols - like Joy to the World, and O Little Town of Bethlehem. It was wacky - and the first several stanzas are still locked in my head.

The wonderful woman who really got me started singing once sang to me the Communion Anthem, Chvalite Hospodi to the tune of Nearer My God to Thee. Our priest vehemently vetoed the idea of singing that in our church.

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Dear Friends,

As a Jewish friend once quipped, the new Israeli national anthem these days appears to be:

Onward Christian Soldiers!

Alex

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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
Dear Friends,

As a Jewish friend once quipped, the new Israeli national anthem these days appears to be:

Onward Christian Soldiers!

Alex
Do y'all think we can send the Salvation Army to the Holy Land to conquer some souls? biggrin

The folks over there need the peace and justice that only God can provide.

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