This is most of the pertinent minutes of the online chat meeting about the upcoming Aug 6th meeting in Whiting, Indiana.
part 1 (to keep the size reasonable)

[7/7/2005 8:12:36 PM] karl: Good news: a friend in my parish had a new baby
[7/7/2005 8:12:37 PM] eve: finally i'm not the only female in here
[7/7/2005 8:12:37 PM] byzantn: and you don't think evangelization to date in our church is cause for gloom?
[7/7/2005 8:12:42 PM] akemner: well, it is nominal group something
[7/7/2005 8:12:52 PM] karl: Bad news: he stole the name I want for my daughter: Macrina
[7/7/2005 8:13:18 PM] karl: "Evangelization to date"--sounds interesting.
[7/7/2005 8:13:19 PM] StephenP: Nominal Group Method i think
[7/7/2005 8:13:33 PM] byzantn: where is dan. he calls these meetings and is late or whatever. he's acting like a bishop
[7/7/2005 8:13:37 PM] Gordo: It is also called Nominal Group Technique. Either will do.
[7/7/2005 8:13:41 PM] akemner: yeah
[7/7/2005 8:13:47 PM] Gordo: Lol
[7/7/2005 8:13:49 PM] johngibson: Ohhhhhhhhh that hurts...
[7/7/2005 8:14:07 PM] akemner: i have to go in 23 minutes
[7/7/2005 8:14:25 PM] Gordo: ....22.5 minutes and counting...
[7/7/2005 8:14:26 PM] StephenP: We should be able to have some results with as many people here
[7/7/2005 8:14:29 PM] akemner: my comp turns into a funny sqaush at 1030
[7/7/2005 8:14:33 PM] karl: Should we kill some time matchmaking?
[7/7/2005 8:14:46 PM] karl: :-)
[7/7/2005 8:14:51 PM] JasonGA: hmmm Did dan actuall schedule a meeting for this evening?
[7/7/2005 8:14:53 PM] akemner: with all these manish folks here?
[7/7/2005 8:14:57 PM] eve: matchmaking what?
[7/7/2005 8:15:03 PM] akemner: we did last week
[7/7/2005 8:15:09 PM] JasonGA: ok
[7/7/2005 8:15:11 PM] byzantn: at my age, there are very few available people left in the home ;-)
[7/7/2005 8:15:19 PM] eve: LOL
[7/7/2005 8:15:21 PM] karl: Stephen--no beard. Eve--doesn't like beards. That's enough to build a lifetime
[7/7/2005 8:15:31 PM] Gordo: I think so. I think we are working on Byzantine time.
[7/7/2005 8:15:34 PM] eve: oh Lord . lol
[7/7/2005 8:15:40 PM] akemner: no time at all
[7/7/2005 8:15:53 PM] byzantn: yes, he scheduled a meeting for 9:45 cst. it's on the forum
[7/7/2005 8:15:55 PM] eve: i'm only 26 guys come on now
[7/7/2005 8:15:59 PM] Gordo: we are on eternal time
[7/7/2005 8:16:05 PM] karl: I'm just kidding.
[7/7/2005 8:16:07 PM] akemner: i am 24
[7/7/2005 8:16:23 PM] akemner: but unavailable
[7/7/2005 8:16:24 PM] StephenP: What I mean is that if Dan is the only one steering the meetings, if he's isn't available we should keep a meeting structure going...
[7/7/2005 8:16:34 PM] eve: yeah i caught onto that lol
[7/7/2005 8:16:36 PM] Gordo: good question.
[7/7/2005 8:16:44 PM] JasonGA: is he on the forum right now?
[7/7/2005 8:16:48 PM] JasonGA: ill check
[7/7/2005 8:17:08 PM] Gordo: I think it would be helpful in the future if we have meetings like this that there should be some agenda sent out ahead of time.
[7/7/2005 8:17:19 PM] akemner: no
[7/7/2005 8:17:33 PM] Athanasios entered the room.
[7/7/2005 8:17:37 PM] Gordo: That way, if someone cannot make it due to beard trimming or computer glitches, the agenda can still move forward.
[7/7/2005 8:17:39 PM] StephenP: Gordo's right, there should be some agenda
[7/7/2005 8:17:39 PM] karl: There he is.
[7/7/2005 8:17:51 PM] johngibson: Whooo Dan... welcom
[7/7/2005 8:17:57 PM] Athanasios: hello
[7/7/2005 8:18:05 PM] Gordo: Hey dan
[7/7/2005 8:18:10 PM] akemner: Glory to Jesus Christ!
[7/7/2005 8:18:12 PM] Athanasios: hi Gordo
[7/7/2005 8:18:18 PM] Athanasios: Glory forever
[7/7/2005 8:18:23 PM] Gordo: Glory forever!
[7/7/2005 8:18:29 PM] Athanasios: Agenda for what?
[7/7/2005 8:18:34 PM] Gordo: this meeting
[7/7/2005 8:18:36 PM] karl: For the meeting here.
[7/7/2005 8:18:42 PM] StephenP: meetings, if you're not here
[7/7/2005 8:18:51 PM] Athanasios: Ah
[7/7/2005 8:18:59 PM] akemner: we have been shooting bulls and chewing their fat for a while
[7/7/2005 8:19:08 PM] Gordo: sometimes just having two or three items/objectives will help us make the meeting more productive
[7/7/2005 8:19:20 PM] Athanasios: I think we need to go to Whiting on July 16
[7/7/2005 8:19:39 PM] StephenP: is there any update as to numbers attending so far?
[7/7/2005 8:19:42 PM] Gordo: is that an agenda item?
[7/7/2005 8:19:53 PM] Athanasios: Darned if I know
[7/7/2005 8:20:00 PM] karl: I will be out of town, but you don't need me.
[7/7/2005 8:20:03 PM] akemner: God knows
[7/7/2005 8:20:03 PM] Athanasios: To either question
[7/7/2005 8:20:08 PM] akemner: that is all that matters
[7/7/2005 8:20:10 PM] karl: Tim Woods and I are all over the music for the liturgies.
[7/7/2005 8:20:15 PM] akemner: He will call who he wants
[7/7/2005 8:20:23 PM] StephenP: Good
[7/7/2005 8:20:31 PM] Gordo: Dan -
[7/7/2005 8:20:39 PM] Athanasios: John
[7/7/2005 8:20:41 PM] Athanasios: Yes
[7/7/2005 8:20:52 PM] Gordo: maybe you could share with us what you hoped to get out of this meeting.
[7/7/2005 8:20:53 PM] karl: Have you all remembered to registed?
[7/7/2005 8:21:01 PM] johngibson: Dan, what?
[7/7/2005 8:21:01 PM] StephenP: So nusic is taken care of, then.
[7/7/2005 8:21:08 PM] Athanasios: I've registered
[7/7/2005 8:21:18 PM] Athanasios: Specific plans
[7/7/2005 8:21:18 PM] eve: ciao all be back later on
[7/7/2005 8:21:19 PM] eve:
[7/7/2005 8:21:21 PM] johngibson: I registered via the website...
[7/7/2005 8:21:22 PM] eve: God bless
[7/7/2005 8:21:38 PM] Gordo: ok...
[7/7/2005 8:21:41 PM] karl: Yes. Music is taken care of. All you cantors can be congregation.
[7/7/2005 8:21:43 PM] StephenP: I haven't registerd yet s it may not be possible for me to make that weekend.
[7/7/2005 8:21:55 PM] Athanasios: If you seen the nominal group, I think you have as good an idea of my expectations as I have
[7/7/2005 8:22:01 PM] akemner: i have not as yet
[7/7/2005 8:22:01 PM] StephenP: Cantor's holiday!
[7/7/2005 8:22:08 PM] Gordo: around what? Is there a checklist of items that need to be taken care of for the event?
[7/7/2005 8:22:11 PM] byzantn: I know I can't attend, but want to know results
[7/7/2005 8:22:36 PM] StephenP: is there a cut off time for registrations?
[7/7/2005 8:22:37 PM] Gordo: So you want to review the agenda then?
[7/7/2005 8:22:39 PM] karl: Things Karl wishes for from the meeting: concrete "action plans"
[7/7/2005 8:22:41 PM] Athanasios: The results will be made clear IF...IF we aren't derailed
[7/7/2005 8:22:54 PM] johngibson: byzantn, we will make sure that stuff will be posted on the website...
[7/7/2005 8:23:03 PM] karl: 1) A real effort to promote monastic life
[7/7/2005 8:23:03 PM] byzantn: great
[7/7/2005 8:23:18 PM] Athanasios: I would hope that if the Bishop won't dismantled most of the standing committees
[7/7/2005 8:23:27 PM] johngibson: If I can get the place wired for internet, I would live blog it.
[7/7/2005 8:23:31 PM] PaniRose entered the room.
[7/7/2005 8:23:35 PM] Athanasios: and assign tasks to action committees that he will at least not depend upn them
[7/7/2005 8:23:45 PM] karl: 2) Outreach to all the byzantine folks who are away from parishes. Reader services, et al.
[7/7/2005 8:24:13 PM] karl: 3) Aggressive evangelization via newspaper, radio, TV, and through architecture and landscaping. Heck through music too.
[7/7/2005 8:24:19 PM] akemner: we have a lot of folks that lives ours from the nearest eastern parish
[7/7/2005 8:25:00 PM] akemner: i used to work in radion
[7/7/2005 8:25:09 PM] karl: 4) Some direction in how to proceed IF we are going to recover married priesthood.
[7/7/2005 8:25:35 PM] karl: 5) A Byzantine Catholic Great Books College :-)
[7/7/2005 8:25:45 PM] karl: Hi Rose!
[7/7/2005 8:25:52 PM] PaniRose: hey everyone
[7/7/2005 8:25:56 PM] PaniRose: sorrry i was late
[7/7/2005 8:25:58 PM] johngibson: <--- worked in TV and Radio
[7/7/2005 8:26:08 PM] PaniRose: tonight is prayer meeting nite and we ran late lol
[7/7/2005 8:26:17 PM] karl: <--- works in college education. Reads lots of books.
[7/7/2005 8:26:32 PM] Gordo: PaniRose!
[7/7/2005 8:26:35 PM] Gordo: Hola!
[7/7/2005 8:26:47 PM] PaniRose: hey Gordo
[7/7/2005 8:26:59 PM] byzantn: Rose, any storm damage?
[7/7/2005 8:27:12 PM] PaniRose: I promise Gordo I am still going to accomplish my mission humm maybe even tomorrow
[7/7/2005 8:27:25 PM] PaniRose: nope we survive it ok
[7/7/2005 8:27:29 PM] byzantn: great
[7/7/2005 8:27:29 PM] Gordo: mission?
[7/7/2005 8:27:42 PM] PaniRose: well b'ham did but not tuscaloosa
[7/7/2005 8:27:47 PM] PaniRose: your CD
[7/7/2005 8:27:58 PM] Gordo: ahhh! (light dawns in a dark world)
[7/7/2005 8:28:05 PM] Gordo: thank you! and no worries...
[7/7/2005 8:28:19 PM] StephenP: karl, that is a great list of action items!
[7/7/2005 8:28:27 PM] PaniRose: OH y'all that is what you need to do is have Gordo sing a bit during the conference for quiet thught
[7/7/2005 8:28:42 PM] byzantn: karl, that is a great list
[7/7/2005 8:28:53 PM] karl: I left off 6) Creation of a Byzantine Brotherhood (or something like a third order) devoted to prayer for the eparchy
[7/7/2005 8:29:00 PM] byzantn: YES
[7/7/2005 8:29:11 PM] Gordo: I was singing earlier...
[7/7/2005 8:29:12 PM] karl: Prayer and fasting.
[7/7/2005 8:29:16 PM] StephenP: Definite Y E S
[7/7/2005 8:29:21 PM] Gordo: Gloom, despair, and agony on me... ;-)
[7/7/2005 8:29:26 PM] karl: I need to fast a lot. I have a sign on my refrigerator: "Have you tried prayer and fasting?"
[7/7/2005 8:29:27 PM] akemner: arent we supposed to do taht anyway?
[7/7/2005 8:29:30 PM] Athanasios: Who has invited others?
[7/7/2005 8:29:33 PM] Athanasios: Are they coming
[7/7/2005 8:29:37 PM] byzantn: deep dark depression, excessive misery
[7/7/2005 8:29:39 PM] Athanasios: Have they registered
[7/7/2005 8:30:06 PM] johngibson: Dan, I am trying to get numbers for the conference attendence...
[7/7/2005 8:30:08 PM] Athanasios: Who is coming from this group?
[7/7/2005 8:30:17 PM] karl: I've invited others, gotten two folks to write letters to Bishop John, and sent a link to the conference to everybody on the Transfiguration College mailing list.
[7/7/2005 8:30:31 PM] byzantn: I have a sign on my refrigerator that says, "taste makes waist"
[7/7/2005 8:30:32 PM] Athanasios: Ah, excellent
[7/7/2005 8:30:43 PM] Gordo: I'm PLANNING on being there....I may have one other from my parish coming. I have a family thing I need to work through in Indy, though.
[7/7/2005 8:31:00 PM] Athanasios: Understood
[7/7/2005 8:31:18 PM] Athanasios: Someone said an area priest might come for the morning only
[7/7/2005 8:31:31 PM] Athanasios: I said, he'd miss almost the entire meeting
[7/7/2005 8:31:42 PM] Athanasios: But, he could meet some of us
[7/7/2005 8:32:16 PM] Athanasios: Does anyone know how to get numbers from the Chancelery?
[7/7/2005 8:32:20 PM] Gordo: One question - why aren't we getting an early start - like 8 or 8:30am? Not that we can change it now...
[7/7/2005 8:32:46 PM] akemner: i like 1000
[7/7/2005 8:32:48 PM] johngibson: Director of communications is out till July 19th according to Bishop John, but I emailed him on the new Parma site
[7/7/2005 8:32:52 PM] Athanasios: Bishop John and John Segviched worked out the schedule
[7/7/2005 8:32:53 PM] StephenP: there is a website with registration information
[7/7/2005 8:33:07 PM] Athanasios: I don't think they knew how long these things take
[7/7/2005 8:33:19 PM] johngibson: However he hasn't gotten back to me on the inquiry on the numbers for the conference
[7/7/2005 8:33:19 PM] Gordo: ALl I need is a cup of cofee in the am and I'm rarin' to go!
[7/7/2005 8:33:19 PM] akemner: i will probably be driving in that night/morning
[7/7/2005 8:33:29 PM] Gordo: ok...
[7/7/2005 8:33:34 PM] Gordo: makes sense
[7/7/2005 8:33:35 PM] Athanasios: There are a few hints that make me a bit leary of the commitment but I think we can overcome them
[7/7/2005 8:33:35 PM] johngibson: Gordo, I need a pot, but then I am great for the rest of the day.
[7/7/2005 8:33:39 PM] StephenP: http://byzantineevangelization.com/register.htm
[7/7/2005 8:33:57 PM] Gordo: IV's work great as well!
[7/7/2005 8:34:05 PM] johngibson: Dan, I don't think it is commitment... I think it is fear
[7/7/2005 8:34:15 PM] Athanasios: INDEED
[7/7/2005 8:34:25 PM] akemner: we have nothing tpo fear but fear itself
[7/7/2005 8:34:29 PM] Athanasios: Nevertheless
[7/7/2005 8:34:38 PM] StephenP: or fear of fearing fear
[7/7/2005 8:34:40 PM] akemner: fear is the Devil's work
[7/7/2005 8:35:03 PM] akemner: i have to go in a couple of minutes
[7/7/2005 8:35:04 PM] Athanasios: We must be as pasionate at this meeting as we were a few weeks ago when this idea came into being
[7/7/2005 8:35:14 PM] akemner: can someone send me the rest of this chat?
[7/7/2005 8:35:29 PM] JasonGA: I will post the minutes on the forum
[7/7/2005 8:35:31 PM] johngibson: Dan, just realize that after August 6th, we simply hit the ground running.
[7/7/2005 8:35:34 PM] StephenP: I have the whole chat logged
[7/7/2005 8:35:34 PM] akemner: ok
[7/7/2005 8:35:36 PM] Athanasios: The plan calls for the creation of specific groups
[7/7/2005 8:35:40 PM] Athanasios: We must hold to that
[7/7/2005 8:35:41 PM] Gordo: where do these get posted on the forum?
[7/7/2005 8:35:49 PM] akemner: djakuju
[7/7/2005 8:35:56 PM] JasonGA: Rose? where have you posted them before?
[7/7/2005 8:36:01 PM] johngibson: if we have backing... great... if not... then don't hinder.
[7/7/2005 8:36:01 PM] Gordo: ...scuse me/
[7/7/2005 8:36:05 PM] akemner: she did last week
[7/7/2005 8:36:11 PM] akemner: goody night all
[7/7/2005 8:36:17 PM] Athanasios: In the Evangelization forum
[7/7/2005 8:36:17 PM] akemner: happy planning
[7/7/2005 8:36:18 PM] StephenP: dobre noc
[7/7/2005 8:36:18 PM] karl: It's wonderful that BIshop John called the meeting,
[7/7/2005 8:36:20 PM] Gordo: nighty nihgt
[7/7/2005 8:36:21 PM] PaniRose: great Stephen thanks
[7/7/2005 8:36:24 PM] akemner left Private Room: Churchbulletin.
[7/7/2005 8:36:30 PM] Gordo: I agree
[7/7/2005 8:36:32 PM] karl: but one must realize that reform rarely starts with bishops
[7/7/2005 8:36:37 PM] johngibson: Karl, yes it is great...
[7/7/2005 8:36:46 PM] Gordo: but reform won't happen without bishops
[7/7/2005 8:36:47 PM] StephenP: this is a rare occasion then
[7/7/2005 8:36:53 PM] Athanasios: Karl, You are quite right
[7/7/2005 8:36:56 PM] PaniRose: the last chat I posted on the forum and it seem to reallyhelp people out by being able to refer or get a better understanding of what is happening
[7/7/2005 8:36:58 PM] karl: Bishops usually confirm the reform that already has happened.
[7/7/2005 8:36:58 PM] byzantn: true, but it's great to have the bishop as a friend, not a foe
[7/7/2005 8:37:00 PM] johngibson: Gordo... actually most reforms have bubbled up from the surface....
[7/7/2005 8:37:12 PM] karl: Absolutely
[7/7/2005 8:37:26 PM] karl: My name saint is Charles Borromeo, one of the reforming bishops.
[7/7/2005 8:37:27 PM] Gordo: I agree
[7/7/2005 8:37:33 PM] johngibson: Witness St. Francis...
[7/7/2005 8:37:39 PM] Gordo: I bringing my 39 theses...
[7/7/2005 8:37:49 PM] johngibson: Karl... Mine is St. John Fisher... what does that mean for me?
[7/7/2005 8:37:49 PM] Gordo: Here I sit - I can type no other
[7/7/2005 8:37:54 PM] Athanasios: The idea of a new order kept coming up at the meeting
[7/7/2005 8:38:02 PM] StephenP: the 39 steps :-)
[7/7/2005 8:38:07 PM] Athanasios: I almost think it is a necessity to keep this movement going
[7/7/2005 8:38:12 PM] Gordo: Yes - you mean like a new monastic order?
[7/7/2005 8:38:22 PM] Athanasios: Yes
[7/7/2005 8:38:30 PM] johngibson: new monastic orders are needed for our Chruch...
[7/7/2005 8:38:44 PM] Athanasios: Catherine is an old hand at this
[7/7/2005 8:38:49 PM] Gordo: I think it is equally important to have a vital lay movement as well, IMHO.
[7/7/2005 8:38:54 PM] johngibson: But a domestic 3rd order would be great.... we will just have to do it backwards
[7/7/2005 8:38:56 PM] Athanasios: Is Catherine registered?
[7/7/2005 8:39:10 PM] byzantn: I would like to see us have monastics like the Orthodox. Not eastern branches of western orders
[7/7/2005 8:39:13 PM] johngibson: Establish a 3rd order and then get 2nd and 1st later...
[7/7/2005 8:39:18 PM] Gordo: Step# 39 - Start a 3rd Order.
[7/7/2005 8:39:22 PM] Athanasios: A monastic order is essentially a lay movement
[7/7/2005 8:39:34 PM] Gordo: Step # 38 - Start a Monastic order
[7/7/2005 8:39:46 PM] johngibson: Would a monastic domestic order be a monastic side order?
[7/7/2005 8:39:47 PM] Gordo: only 37 more steps to go!
[7/7/2005 8:39:59 PM] StephenP: It will be good to see an Eparchy that appreciates monasticism
[7/7/2005 8:40:03 PM] Athanasios:
[7/7/2005 8:40:11 PM] Gordo: would you like an apple pie with that Monastikon?
[7/7/2005 8:40:33 PM] johngibson: would you like vespers with that?
[7/7/2005 8:40:37 PM] Athanasios: I sure wish Pat Reidy were here
[7/7/2005 8:40:44 PM] Gordo: and a side of Matins - to go, please?
[7/7/2005 8:40:44 PM] karl: You always say that
[7/7/2005 8:40:50 PM] Athanasios: But at least now I can call him
[7/7/2005 8:40:57 PM] johngibson: Pat said something about going out to Whiting...
[7/7/2005 8:41:15 PM] Athanasios: Yes, oin the 16th
[7/7/2005 8:41:31 PM] Athanasios: I'll give him and anyone else a dry run of the Nominal group
[7/7/2005 8:41:51 PM] Athanasios: I don't think it can be led without seeing it done first
[7/7/2005 8:41:53 PM] karl: I think a byzantine brotherhood thingy as a lay group would require some concrete commitments from its members
[7/7/2005 8:42:18 PM] karl: Like Vespers and Matins, at least twice a week.
[7/7/2005 8:42:19 PM] Athanasios: Make the order part of your contribution.
[7/7/2005 8:42:19 PM] byzantn entered the room.
[7/7/2005 8:42:23 PM] karl: I will.
[7/7/2005 8:42:29 PM] Athanasios: Remember, 7 words or less
[7/7/2005 8:42:30 PM] karl: Mandatory beard-growing
[7/7/2005 8:42:39 PM] Athanasios: Yikes,
[7/7/2005 8:42:40 PM] karl: spiritual reading.
[7/7/2005 8:42:44 PM] Athanasios: For woemen as well?
[7/7/2005 8:42:52 PM] JasonGA: lol
[7/7/2005 8:42:52 PM] karl: If they can
[7/7/2005 8:42:52 PM] byzantn: monasticism is good, but am not crazy about Latin monks in eastern clothing
[7/7/2005 8:43:08 PM] Athanasios: Elaborate, please
[7/7/2005 8:43:37 PM] karl: We don't want copies of Benedictines, I think.
[7/7/2005 8:43:39 PM] Athanasios: In fact, elaborate in writing to contribute to the meeting
[7/7/2005 8:43:39 PM] Gordo: I have the Typicon (statutes and little rule) for a lay group if anyone is interested in seeing them. We have been meeting in Minneapolis since 2001.
[7/7/2005 8:43:54 PM] karl: That would be great. Can you send it to me?
[7/7/2005 8:43:57 PM] johngibson: Gordo.... would you please email them to me?
[7/7/2005 8:44:04 PM] karl: I hope a bunch of you are coming to the meeting.
[7/7/2005 8:44:07 PM] Gordo: Sure - what is your e-mail address?
[7/7/2005 8:44:12 PM] karl: kschudt@comcast.net
[7/7/2005 8:44:13 PM] johngibson: johngibson@mac.com
[7/7/2005 8:44:17 PM] Gordo: JOhn - didn't I send them to you?
[7/7/2005 8:44:18 PM] karl: Mac.Sigh.
[7/7/2005 8:44:48 PM] johngibson: Gordo... I believe that we talked about it... but I don't think it happened...
[7/7/2005 8:45:01 PM] Athanasios: Given the problems I'm having with this pc maybe macs should be mandatory
[7/7/2005 8:45:33 PM] johngibson: Karl... why do you have such a problem with Macs?
[7/7/2005 8:45:34 PM] FrAnthony entered the room.
[7/7/2005 8:45:47 PM] Athanasios: Welcome Father
[7/7/2005 8:45:51 PM] johngibson: Glory to Jesus Christ, Father!
[7/7/2005 8:46:04 PM] PaniRose: Hey Fr. Anthony welcome
[7/7/2005 8:46:24 PM] FrAnthony: Hello
[7/7/2005 8:46:35 PM] Athanasios: So, Who's coming to Whiting on July 16?
[7/7/2005 8:46:37 PM] byzantn entered the room.
[7/7/2005 8:46:49 PM] johngibson: <--- will be there
[7/7/2005 8:46:59 PM] StephenP: karl, I'm still working out logistics to see if I can make it for the 6th. 's a long way from Whiting IN 'ere I come from.
[7/7/2005 8:47:24 PM] byzantn: Earthlink is a bit glitchy tonight. Will read this on the forum tomorrow. Good night all.

part 2 of minutes


[7/7/2005 8:47:43 PM] Athanasios: Father Loya says a fellow from NM is coming, as well as a rep from the Monestary
[7/7/2005 8:47:58 PM] StephenP: local problem, I'm on earthlink no glitches
[7/7/2005 8:48:18 PM] Athanasios: Byz, wish you could be with us on the 6th.
[7/7/2005 8:48:32 PM] karl: Let me know if you need airport shuttling.
[7/7/2005 8:49:13 PM] Athanasios: John, I think we may end up using Newspring
[7/7/2005 8:49:39 PM] Athanasios: I know that's from the dark ages, but I can't figure out how to use power point
[7/7/2005 8:49:43 PM] Athanasios: for our work
[7/7/2005 8:50:03 PM] johngibson: Dan, let me help. I know powerpoint and I have a laptop.
[7/7/2005 8:50:11 PM] johngibson: Plus I am a tech guy...
[7/7/2005 8:50:23 PM] Athanasios: John, I wonder if we can establish some regular contact with the bishop
[7/7/2005 8:50:41 PM] Athanasios: John, perhaps we can figure someing out on the 6th.
[7/7/2005 8:50:42 PM] StephenP: Good, I know power point(less) and find it frustrating though kind of neat.
[7/7/2005 8:50:58 PM] johngibson: We are supposed to be having monthly meetings with him.
[7/7/2005 8:51:07 PM] johngibson: Stephen, Power point is evil.
[7/7/2005 8:51:09 PM] Athanasios: We are?
[7/7/2005 8:51:11 PM] johngibson: Plain and simple....
[7/7/2005 8:51:37 PM] johngibson: That was out of the meeting that we had with him. I asked if he woudl be willing to meet on a monthy
[7/7/2005 8:51:53 PM] PaniRose: Dan one thing I think Fr. Anthony has brought up before is making sure all of this is written out and submitted, everything that is done, and how it has been accomplished and there be at least two or possibly three that can dublicate what is happening
[7/7/2005 8:51:57 PM] johngibson: basis and he said yes. We are supposed to have a meeting in July with him before this Aug sixth meeting
[7/7/2005 8:51:59 PM] Athanasios: Did he agree?
[7/7/2005 8:52:14 PM] johngibson: I believe he did. I am assuming that he did.
[7/7/2005 8:52:32 PM] Gordo: I just sent off the Typicon of the Byzantine Companions of the Holy Cross.
[7/7/2005 8:52:36 PM] Athanasios: Where are we to meet?
[7/7/2005 8:52:42 PM] Gordo: You should receive it momentarily...
[7/7/2005 8:53:00 PM] Athanasios: Pani,
[7/7/2005 8:53:08 PM] PaniRose: So really any programs done on the computer really need to be saved for further scrutiny and improvement, so good back up is necessary
[7/7/2005 8:53:16 PM] johngibson: Thaks Gordo...
[7/7/2005 8:53:17 PM] Gordo: Hi, Father! Sorry - I was doing other things...
[7/7/2005 8:53:17 PM] Athanasios: I wonder in what form this is wished for?
[7/7/2005 8:53:33 PM] Gordo: no problemo...
[7/7/2005 8:53:37 PM] FrAnthony: OK
[7/7/2005 8:53:52 PM] Athanasios: Pani
[7/7/2005 8:53:56 PM] johngibson: Gordo.. got it... making edits now...
[7/7/2005 8:54:04 PM] Athanasios: What if we don't put anything on the computer
[7/7/2005 8:54:07 PM] johngibson: lets see... every meeting wear clown noses....
[7/7/2005 8:54:17 PM] Athanasios: How does, whoever, want the reports?
[7/7/2005 8:54:22 PM] PaniRose: As plans are put in order who ever is working on that part needs to type a synopsis of what they were called to do, and how they went about accomplishing it
[7/7/2005 8:54:25 PM] Gordo: "honk" - check.
[7/7/2005 8:54:57 PM] Athanasios: Well, that's for after the meeting, I gather
[7/7/2005 8:55:06 PM] Gordo: What are we discussing now? I keep trying to read the history, but everytime I start reading, it brings me back down to the next post.
[7/7/2005 8:55:11 PM] PaniRose: They need to be gone over by those ivolved and with Fr. thom for thourough critiqing afterwards
[7/7/2005 8:55:33 PM] Athanasios: It will all be there in front of us
[7/7/2005 8:55:44 PM] Athanasios: The method doesn't hide anything
[7/7/2005 8:55:46 PM] johngibson: There will need to be a call to arms at this meeting.
[7/7/2005 8:56:00 PM] johngibson: Groups will need to be established and work assisgned.
[7/7/2005 8:56:01 PM] Athanasios: Openness is just the way things operate.
[7/7/2005 8:56:20 PM] Gordo: Nominal Group Technique is all about transparency in the process.
[7/7/2005 8:56:29 PM] Athanasios: Indeed it is
[7/7/2005 8:56:36 PM] Athanasios: It's why I like it
[7/7/2005 8:56:41 PM] Gordo: me too.
[7/7/2005 8:57:01 PM] johngibson: So I guess this will be the one time that it is good to be a nominal catholic?
[7/7/2005 8:57:02 PM] Athanasios: No hot shots, no secrets
[7/7/2005 8:57:17 PM] Athanasios:
[7/7/2005 8:57:19 PM] sharonk entered the room.
[7/7/2005 8:57:22 PM] Gordo: I'm just a practicing Catholic...
[7/7/2005 8:57:41 PM] johngibson: Gordo... me too... but I hope to get it right one of these days...
[7/7/2005 8:57:49 PM] Athanasios: Some day, when judgement comes, maybe we can stop practicing and get it right
[7/7/2005 8:57:49 PM] Gordo: exactly...
[7/7/2005 8:58:10 PM] Athanasios: Pni,
[7/7/2005 8:58:12 PM] Athanasios: Pani
[7/7/2005 8:58:17 PM] Athanasios: Panirose
[7/7/2005 8:58:19 PM] Gordo: so why were we discussing the virtues (or lack thereof) of Power Point?
[7/7/2005 8:58:39 PM] Athanasios: Because I don't see how it can be used in this method
[7/7/2005 8:58:43 PM] Athanasios: Can you?
[7/7/2005 8:58:45 PM] karl: Use paper.
[7/7/2005 8:58:49 PM] Athanasios: Panirose
[7/7/2005 8:58:51 PM] karl: Big paper. Big markers.
[7/7/2005 8:58:59 PM] Athanasios: Big is right
[7/7/2005 8:59:01 PM] karl: We techies can translate it all for the website later.
[7/7/2005 8:59:08 PM] Athanasios: Good
[7/7/2005 8:59:11 PM] johngibson: Dan, I can get the end rolls of newsprint from the local paper.
[7/7/2005 8:59:14 PM] FrAnthony: How about Post It Presntation Pads?
[7/7/2005 8:59:18 PM] Gordo: I agree. Flip chart paper is much better. 3M has FC paper that has the sticky back of a post-it note. It is great for posting on walls.
[7/7/2005 8:59:28 PM] Gordo: :-)
[7/7/2005 8:59:40 PM] Athanasios: Father, I'm not familiar with that
[7/7/2005 8:59:47 PM] Gordo: you and I are on the same page, Father! (No pun intended...)
[7/7/2005 9:00:15 PM] FrAnthony: It is like Gordo described, can be used as a flip chart or posted around the room on the alls.
[7/7/2005 9:00:16 PM] Athanasios: Who can bring these mysterious things?
[7/7/2005 9:00:23 PM] sharonk: Hi Jason
[7/7/2005 9:00:26 PM] Gordo: It is a large Post-It note, Dan, that you can use on a flip chart stand - tear off, and stick to a wall without tape.
[7/7/2005 9:00:27 PM] sharonk: hello Rose
[7/7/2005 9:00:30 PM] Athanasios: How large are they?
[7/7/2005 9:00:46 PM] Gordo: the same size as a regular flip chart
[7/7/2005 9:00:59 PM] Gordo: you can buy them at any Office Max usually.
[7/7/2005 9:01:00 PM] Athanasios: Gordo and Father, sounds good to me. Better than tape
[7/7/2005 9:01:01 PM] johngibson: well folks... i have to go to bed...
[7/7/2005 9:01:07 PM] FrAnthony: All officesupply stores carry them. Large as a standard flip chart for presentation.
[7/7/2005 9:01:08 PM] Athanasios: Me too
[7/7/2005 9:01:17 PM] Athanasios: I never did get Pani's attention
[7/7/2005 9:01:20 PM] Gordo: Night, John! Did that coffee run out?
[7/7/2005 9:01:23 PM] Athanasios: Maybe next time
[7/7/2005 9:01:31 PM] karl: Gordo, thanks for the typicon. Perhaps what I'm looking for already exists. . .
[7/7/2005 9:01:31 PM] Gordo: you can PM here here...
[7/7/2005 9:01:33 PM] Athanasios: Next Thursday, same time then?
[7/7/2005 9:01:36 PM] johngibson: Yep.. sure did... thanks for the typicon..
[7/7/2005 9:01:54 PM] Gordo: absolutely. Please keep our little mustard seed group in prayer!
[7/7/2005 9:01:56 PM] johngibson: Dan, can we make it a bit earlier?
[7/7/2005 9:02:09 PM] Gordo: I iwll be in CT...but I will see if I can make it.
[7/7/2005 9:02:25 PM] Athanasios: 9:30?
[7/7/2005 9:02:27 PM] johngibson: also it would help if we could start on time too... not to be bitchy...
[7/7/2005 9:02:31 PM] robert39 entered the room.
[7/7/2005 9:02:36 PM] StephenP: Well there wil have to be some setup prior to the meeting....
[7/7/2005 9:02:41 PM] slmc421 entered the room.
[7/7/2005 9:02:42 PM] Gordo: and...can we have a set agenda? ;-)
[7/7/2005 9:02:56 PM] Athanasios: John, I had quite a time making it when I did.
[7/7/2005 9:03:08 PM] Athanasios: Gordo, would you set it?
[7/7/2005 9:03:23 PM] Athanasios: Good night, Ladies!
[7/7/2005 9:03:28 PM] Gordo: Sure
[7/7/2005 9:03:34 PM] Gordo: Let's discuss
[7/7/2005 9:03:39 PM] Athanasios left Private Room: Churchbulletin.
[7/7/2005 9:03:45 PM] johngibson left Private Room: Churchbulletin.
[7/7/2005 9:03:47 PM] Gordo: maybe later, eh?
[7/7/2005 9:03:57 PM] Gordo: okay...
[7/7/2005 9:04:05 PM] Gordo: dropping like flies...
[7/7/2005 9:04:32 PM] karl: Those oldsters can't stay up. When they hit the wall, they hit it hard.
[7/7/2005 9:04:38 PM] StephenP: A Question for next time... I see luch on the schedule is anyone in charge of that?
[7/7/2005 9:04:42 PM] Gordo: no kidding, man!
[7/7/2005 9:05:13 PM] Gordo: I don't know. THat would make a good agenda item. To identify who is responsible for which part of the meeting on the 6th.
[7/7/2005 9:05:25 PM] StephenP: i meant 'Lunch" (an oldster who is on West coast time)
[7/7/2005 9:05:46 PM] karl: Put lunch on the agenda.
[7/7/2005 9:05:50 PM] karl: mmmm.lunch.
[7/7/2005 9:06:02 PM] Gordo: or luch, whatever your preference
[7/7/2005 9:06:06 PM] StephenP: There are some logistics issues still to be dealt with it seems. The agenda seems to be shaping up well.
[7/7/2005 9:06:32 PM] StephenP: ie. coffee?
[7/7/2005 9:06:38 PM] Gordo: I agree. I'm keen on logistics, but I'm still not clear on who is doing what yet!
[7/7/2005 9:06:45 PM] Gordo: cofee is vital
[7/7/2005 9:06:53 PM] Gordo: or coffee, if you prefer
[7/7/2005 9:06:59 PM] StephenP: maybe that should be an agenda item for next week.
[7/7/2005 9:07:08 PM] Gordo: good idea.
[7/7/2005 9:07:31 PM] Gordo: I'll set up something on the forum and solicit suggestions for next week's meeting.
[7/7/2005 9:07:37 PM] StephenP: logistics of the meeting. Hotel has been covered
[7/7/2005 9:07:50 PM] Gordo: that's right.
[7/7/2005 9:08:05 PM] Gordo: alright - I'm headed to bed.
[7/7/2005 9:08:08 PM] Gordo: God lbess!
[7/7/2005 9:08:12 PM] Gordo: or bless!
[7/7/2005 9:08:16 PM] StephenP: The website is great for 24 hour info
[7/7/2005 9:08:17 PM] karl: Goodnite.
[7/7/2005 9:08:26 PM] karl: I'm heading bedward myself.
[7/7/2005 9:08:31 PM] StephenP: dobre noc!
[7/7/2005 9:08:39 PM] Gordo: what does that mean?
[7/7/2005 9:08:40 PM] karl: Gute nacht.
[7/7/2005 9:08:46 PM] Gordo: Prima!
[7/7/2005 9:08:49 PM] StephenP: good night in Rusyn
[7/7/2005 9:08:57 PM] Gordo: Schlafen wir jetz!
[7/7/2005 9:09:05 PM] Gordo: ahh...
[7/7/2005 9:09:08 PM] Gordo: or daaa.
[7/7/2005 9:09:13 PM] StephenP: sprechen zie what?
[7/7/2005 9:09:18 PM] karl: Ich muss meine Bier getrinken. Denn Ich werde schlafen.
[7/7/2005 9:09:23 PM] karl: Or something like that.
[7/7/2005 9:09:28 PM] StephenP: :-)
[7/7/2005 9:09:35 PM] Gordo: Ja - Ich glaube das ist gut fur dich.
[7/7/2005 9:09:51 PM] Gordo: Ich moechte auch ein Bier haben.
[7/7/2005 9:09:54 PM] karl: Bier ist himmlische
[7/7/2005 9:09:54 PM] StephenP: We habve new German management at work....
[7/7/2005 9:10:12 PM] Gordo: Hey - when you gotta a Bavarian Pope...
[7/7/2005 9:10:37 PM] sharonk left Private Room: Churchbulletin.
[7/7/2005 9:10:48 PM] Gordo: Tschus!
[7/7/2005 9:10:56 PM] karl: Aufwiedersehen.
[7/7/2005 9:11:00 PM] karl left Private Room: Churchbulletin.
[7/7/2005 9:11:01 PM] Gordo: Tschau!
[7/7/2005 9:11:08 PM] PaniRose: Y'all say a prayer for Sharon that just left. They have admitted her son to the hospital with menegitis
[7/7/2005 9:11:08 PM] StephenP: gnight mate
[7/7/2005 9:11:17 PM] PaniRose: Stephen
[7/7/2005 9:11:21 PM] StephenP: Sorry to hear!
[7/7/2005 9:11:24 PM] slmc421: hey robert
[7/7/2005 9:11:25 PM] PaniRose: so you have all the notes from tonight
[7/7/2005 9:11:38 PM] PaniRose: i came in late and did not get them
[7/7/2005 9:11:56 PM] PaniRose: Stephen
[7/7/2005 9:11:57 PM] StephenP: including the coffee chat at the beginning :-)

Gracias, Steve