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#207890 - 07/07/06 08:13 AM Re: The Babas Know
carson daniel "Metta Physical" lauffer Offline
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Registered: 11/07/01
Posts: 5385
Loc: Joliet, Illinois
Quote:
Originally posted by Serge Keleher:
The simple presence of a Bishop at a gathering, conference, or what-have-you does not transform that gathering into a Sobor.

I again advise avoiding that word. Its use is not warranted in this context, and it would be perceived as an impertinence, even a threat.

Fr. Serge
Yes, that is what I meant.

CDL

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#207891 - 07/07/06 09:29 AM Re: The Babas Know
Elijahmaria Offline
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Registered: 02/11/06
Posts: 1625
Loc: New York
Quote:
Originally posted by carson daniel lauffer:
Quote:
Originally posted by Serge Keleher:
The simple presence of a Bishop at a gathering, conference, or what-have-you does not transform that gathering into a Sobor.

I again advise avoiding that word. Its use is not warranted in this context, and it would be perceived as an impertinence, even a threat.

Fr. Serge
Yes, that is what I meant.

CDL
smile

Good thinking.

It is a very very serious canonical offense to rise up in rebellion against one's bishop, metropolitan, archbishop or patriarch. Calling a Sobor in opposition is the strongest act you could take against any hierarch. Father Serge is the one at real risk for causing a tsimis between and among bishops in this case, so if you want him at your conflab you'd better know precisely what you are doing and quit fooling around with what you don't know.

I am still waiting for the packet of recommended changes and the letter of petition from clergy and laity. I guess I'll have to wait till after the conflab. But then again I am beginning to realise the wait may be even much longer than that.

Eli

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#207892 - 07/07/06 10:35 AM Re: The Babas Know
carson daniel "Metta Physical" lauffer Offline
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Loc: Joliet, Illinois
Eli,

I promise. No rebellion here. Cross my heart and hope to live. Never. Never. Never.

We hope to have a conference to promote evangelization. That is all. Since the liturgy seems to be part of that task we will look at it and celebrate it. But we won't have any thing that even starts with an "S".

CDL

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#207893 - 07/07/06 10:53 AM Re: The Babas Know
Hesychios Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
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Perhaps in Parma they need a conference, and in Passaic they need a Sobor :rolleyes:

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#207894 - 07/07/06 10:55 AM Re: The Babas Know
carson daniel "Metta Physical" lauffer Offline
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Registered: 11/07/01
Posts: 5385
Loc: Joliet, Illinois
Quote:
Originally posted by Hesychios:
Perhaps in Parma they need a conference, and in Passaic they need a Sobor :rolleyes:
Perhaps, but I'm not going there. I've been hit enough times already.

CDL

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#207895 - 07/07/06 12:15 PM Re: The Babas Know
Steve Petach Offline
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Registered: 11/09/01
Posts: 645
Loc: Reseda CA
Even without a Sobor, there has already been considerable rebellion fomented on this Forum. So it would seem to be little more than semantics at this point. For the past year or so, there has existed a de facto virtual conference right here. We have just been so busy being in the moment to realise the significance of the "non event" of such universal communication within our church. True we don't read what the Bishops and many Priests feel about subjects on this forum, but I am quite sure our Bishops know what transpires here.

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#207896 - 07/07/06 12:17 PM Re: The Babas Know
Steve Petach Offline
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Registered: 11/09/01
Posts: 645
Loc: Reseda CA
Quote:
Originally posted by incognitus:
Of course the Babas know. Have you never heard of OBS, the Greek-Catholic intelligence agency? The initials mean Odna Baba Skazala . . . it never fails.

Incognitus
Translation????

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#207897 - 07/07/06 12:47 PM Re: The Babas Know
carson daniel "Metta Physical" lauffer Offline
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Registered: 11/07/01
Posts: 5385
Loc: Joliet, Illinois
Quote:
Originally posted by Steve Petach:
Even without a Sobor, there has already been considerable rebellion fomented on this Forum. So it would seem to be little more than semantics at this point. For the past year or so, there has existed a de facto virtual conference right here. We have just been so busy being in the moment to realise the significance of the "non event" of such universal communication within our church. True we don't read what the Bishops and many Priests feel about subjects on this forum, but I am quite sure our Bishops know what transpires here.
If this is a rebellion is sure doesn't amount to much. The bishops seem to still be yawning at the who tempest, if it is even that.

CDL

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#207898 - 07/07/06 02:20 PM Re: The Babas Know
Fr Serge Keleher Offline
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Registered: 06/22/06
Posts: 5599
Loc: Dublin
Dear Steve,

You asked for a translation of "Odna Baba Skazala". It means "A Baba Said . .. " What greater source of knowledge could there be, especially if confirmed with sauerkraut juice?

Fr Serge

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#207899 - 07/07/06 02:21 PM Re: The Babas Know
AMM Offline
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Registered: 04/04/05
Posts: 3354
Loc: US
Quote:
Originally posted by Hesychios:
Perhaps in Parma they need a conference, and in Passaic they need a Sobor
What does that mean?

Andrew

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