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#208398 - 07/25/06 08:47 AM Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Java Joe Offline
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Who are the members of the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission and what are their qualifications in liturgy and languages (degrees, books published)?

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#208399 - 07/25/06 03:13 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Fr Serge Keleher Offline
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The members of that commission are remarkably reticent, modest and unwilling to be identified. That in itself is worth noting.

Fr. Serge

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#208400 - 07/25/06 03:34 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
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Noting that they choose to remain incognitus? Or notable that they are modest? Interesting path this thread is taking.

When I get home, I'll find the list of IELC members and PM, if some doesn't beat me to it.

Steve

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#208401 - 07/25/06 03:40 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
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I posted it once, I can do so again...give me a few minutes.
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#208402 - 07/25/06 03:43 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Cathy Offline
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Sacred Liturgy

Bishop Andrew, Chair

Reverend Monsignor Alexis E. Mihalik (Pittsburgh)
Reverend Elias L. Rafaj (Pittsburgh)
Reverend John S. Custer (Passiac)
Very Reverend Michael J. Mondik (Passaic)
Very Reverend Michael Hayduk (Parma)
Reverend Robert M. Pipta (Van Nuys)
Rt. REv. Mitred Archpriest Stephen G Washko (Van Nuys)
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#208403 - 07/25/06 03:47 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Monomakh Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cathy:
Sacred Liturgy

Bishop Andrew, Chair

Reverend Monsignor Alexis E. Mihalik (Pittsburgh)
Reverend Elias L. Rafaj (Pittsburgh)
Reverend John S. Custer (Passiac)
Very Reverend Michael J. Mondik (Passaic)
Very Reverend Michael Hayduk (Parma)
Reverend Robert M. Pipta (Van Nuys)
Rt. REv. Mitred Archpriest Stephen G Washko (Van Nuys)
Where is Father David on this list? Or is that a different commission?

monomakh

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#208404 - 07/25/06 03:54 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
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You know I'm not sure, although he is on the Sacred Liturgy Commission for Parma...does anyone have any idea. I believe it was a joint effort between the Sacred Liturgy Commission and Sacred Music, which by the way both share the same chair, Bishop Andrew. biggrin Hmm, I see a pattern here, do you?
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#208405 - 07/25/06 05:57 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Fr Serge Keleher Offline
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Steve suggests that "they choose to remain incognitus" - but since, as the pronoun implies, there are surely more than one of them, they would be incogniti.

Me, I belong to the cognoscenti.

Fr. Serge

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#208406 - 07/25/06 06:13 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Our Lady's slave Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cathy:
Sacred Liturgy

Bishop Andrew, Chair

Reverend Monsignor Alexis E. Mihalik (Pittsburgh)
Reverend Elias L. Rafaj (Pittsburgh)
Reverend John S. Custer (Passiac)
Very Reverend Michael J. Mondik (Passaic)
Very Reverend Michael Hayduk (Parma)
Reverend Robert M. Pipta (Van Nuys)
Rt. REv. Mitred Archpriest Stephen G Washko (Van Nuys)
Hmm - as a total outsider here I probably should not post wink

But I would like to pose a question

Can anyone tell me why there are 2 members from Passaic , 2 from Pittsburgh, 2 from Van Nuys but only 1 member from Parma ??

After all - the chairman comes from Passaic .

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#208407 - 07/25/06 07:15 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Pavel Ivanovich Offline
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Well one thing is for sure this committee has come in for a lot of criticism.

I had heard the new liturgy was already in use in the Seminary when the balloon went up. Can anyone confirm this?

Now there is a bishop who has yet to send in his offer to retire at 75yrs. Serge cool for Bishop? biggrin wink

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#208408 - 07/25/06 07:23 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Elijahmaria Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pavel Ivanovich:
Well one thing is for sure this committee has come in for a lot of criticism.

I had heard the new liturgy was already in use in the Seminary when the balloon went up. Can anyone confirm this?
Long before there were balloon sightings. The chairman of the committee has very close ties to the seminary. My sense of this is that the heart of the revision beats to the rythm of the seminary and not the metropolitan chancery.

Eli

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#208409 - 07/25/06 07:34 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Pavel Ivanovich Offline
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Most interesting! I am not surprised about the information in regard to the latter but the former is of interest. Thanks Eli.

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#208410 - 07/25/06 07:34 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Hieromonk Elias Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Our Lady's slave of love:

Can anyone tell me why there are 2 members from Passaic , 2 from Pittsburgh, 2 from Van Nuys but only 1 member from Parma ??
Cathy's list left out Archpriest David Petras, who is a priest of the Parma Eparchy.

the unworthy,
Elias

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#208411 - 07/29/06 12:46 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Deacon John Montalvo Offline
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Registered: 11/04/01
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Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
Quote:
Originally posted by Serge Keleher:
The members of that commission are remarkably reticent, modest and unwilling to be identified. That in itself is worth noting.

Fr. Serge
Why is it that Fr Serge seeks to create a tempest when there is none?

The members of of the IELC are certainly no secret society. There identities are quite well known if one seeks to belong to the cognoscenti.

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#208412 - 07/29/06 02:24 PM Re: Question on the Inter-Eparchial Liturgical Commission
Fr Serge Keleher Offline
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Loc: Dublin
Dear Pavel Ivanovich - Thanks, but nolo episcopari!

Fr. Serge

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