After my wife and I moved out of San Diego to purchase our first home we no longer attend a Ruthenian church. The closest one to where we live is a Melkite mission. I have ben out of touch with what is going on in the Ruthenian Metropolia and was wondering if the revised liturgy is in actual use yet. Attending the Melkite mission I can experience for the first time a "full" liturgy, although on Sundays the matin service is abbreviated. The only thing I find odd about the Divine Liturgy is that at that part of the liturgy the response is "remember all your men and women".For whatever it's worth it would seem this translation is not just a Ruthenian innovation. The services are conducted in English, Arabic, and Greek which was alittle difficult at first but now I seem to be getting the hang of it.

Paul

Dear Paul,

"Remember all men and women" is actually more accurate. The Greek and slavonic texts at that point could literally be translated "for all masculine things and feminine things," and so the one you are using is better than "remember all your people."

It's an odd example of a case where the revision could have used inclusive language, since the original text specifically refers to masculine and feminine, but they chose not to.

I'd like to see the slavonic and greek texts and a more clear picture of the argument here.

The slavonic is "I vs'ich i vsja." (Sorry for the English letters.)

Greek: Και πάντων και πασών.

Church Slavonic: И всѣхъ и всѫ(я).