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#209664 - 05/22/05 09:13 PM
Re: Who is mandating the "revised" liturgy and rubrics?
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#209668 - 05/23/05 03:09 AM
Re: Who is mandating the "revised" liturgy and rubrics?
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The revision is not being mandated by Rome but is the initiative of the council of hierarchs.
When Metropolitan Judson was still alive, I believe, a basic translation and revisions of rubrics were approved by the proper Vatican authorities. This is still the basic text that is supposed to be promulgated by the Metropolitan soon.
What would be interesting to know is whether there have been further revisions since that time and whether or not these subsequent revisions were submitted given explicit approval from competent Roman authorities.
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#209669 - 05/23/05 05:47 AM
Re: Who is mandating the "revised" liturgy and rubrics?
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Registered: 02/09/04
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It's one thing to attempt a more accurate translation. It's a completely different thing to use this new translation as a vehicle for "sneaking in" politically correct/inclusive language such as replacing
"for he is gracious and he loves mankind"
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"for he is good and loves us all".
My opinion of this whole new translation/new rubrics fiasco can be summed up by the quote:
"Iceberg, Right Ahead !!!!"
antonius
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#209671 - 05/23/05 07:44 AM
Re: Who is mandating the "revised" liturgy and rubrics?
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Originally posted by Ung-Certez: So my point is that Rome can not "mandate" anything to a specific "SUI JURIS" Eastern Catholic Church. Why are the faithful being told that these particular changes are a directive from Rome? This is impossible according to how Rome governs Eastern Catholic Churches.
Ungcsertezs I am beginning to think that telling the faithful that these changes are "a directive from Rome" is just a convenient "cover" for those in the Byzantine hierarchy that don't want to take responsibility for them. Rome can be blamed for many things, but I don't think this is one of them......
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#209674 - 05/24/05 07:54 AM
Re: Who is mandating the "revised" liturgy and rubrics?
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They have a mailing address, a phone number, and a FAX number, but I can't find an e-mail address...
antonius
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#209675 - 05/24/05 08:02 AM
Re: Who is mandating the "revised" liturgy and rubrics?
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I am not criticizing your desire to write to Rome. You have a perfect right to do so. But I would like to SEE the new liturgy before writing anyone. So far, all the complaints seem to be based on rumor, and what is, or is not happening in Passaic.
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#209677 - 05/24/05 08:25 AM
Re: Who is mandating the "revised" liturgy and rubrics?
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Originally posted by byzanTN: So far, all the complaints seem to be based on rumor, and what is, or is not happening in Passaic. The copies I have seen so far have INCLUSIVE language, and that in itself is enough for me be GREATLY apprehensive as to the final version...........................
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