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#209756 - 06/25/06 02:30 AM Download the New Liturgy!
Pseudo-Athanasius Offline
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Registered: 07/16/03
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I had a few hours tonight, so I opened up Fr. Keleher's book to the appendix, where he has the new liturgy (Oct 2004 edition) printed. I started typing, and managed to get 10 of the 40 pages done. You can download it here.

The text should be exact, unless I mistyped something. I have included "-1-" and "-2-" and so on to indicate the pagination of the original version.

I won't be able to enter any more of it for a few days, since I will have company at my house. If any of the rest of you who have access to the new liturgy would like to aid my project, feel free. Just start typing on page 11 or later, and let me know what you are doing so we don't duplicate work.

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#209757 - 06/25/06 08:10 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
Carson Daniel Offline
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Registered: 11/07/01
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Thank you! Perhaps we can now gain some perspective on this issue.

CDL

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#209758 - 06/25/06 08:36 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
Fr Serge Keleher Offline
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The more people are able to have access to this text, the better - before it is foisted upon the Church. But at the risk of advertising my own work, might I suggest obtaining copies of my book and encouraging wide distribution? Nervy of me - but as Father David has remarked, I do not lack for chutzpah!

Serge Keleher

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#209759 - 06/25/06 09:33 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
JohnS. Offline
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Now, where can get a copy of the 1940's Liturgicon we're supposed to be using for comparison?

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#209760 - 06/25/06 09:39 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
Pseudo-Athanasius Offline
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Dear Fr. Serge,

Of course. I recommend everyone get a copy of your book.

My motivation for typing the liturgy into a word-processor is so that we can have a better discussion of the points raised in your book.

Is the textus receptus of the Greek available online anywhere? I have a Greek-German text, but it might be useful for others on the forum.

By the way, anyone wish to help me with the typing? As I said above, I am unlikely to be able to continue until Monday night.

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#209761 - 06/25/06 09:54 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
Carson Daniel Offline
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I'd be glad to do so but I don't yet have the text. Perhaps I can get one this week but it won't help with this project. Sorry.

CDL

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#209762 - 06/25/06 10:41 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
djs Offline
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Registered: 05/16/02
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Good grief, here's the link: Greek, Slavonic, English, Study texts with links to discussions here, ...

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#209763 - 06/25/06 10:44 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
ByzKat Offline
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Registered: 06/22/04
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Quote:
Originally posted by JohnS.:
Now, where can get a copy of the 1940's Liturgicon we're supposed to be using for comparison?
Links to online copies of the 1942 Ruthenian recension Liturgikon, and the 1965 English translation (the one for which the text was used while the rubrics were tacitly ignored) can be found here .

Yours in Christ,
Jeff

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#209764 - 06/25/06 07:40 PM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
John Gibson Offline
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Registered: 10/31/03
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So where does one order Fr. Serge's book?

My enquiring mind would like to know.

John

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#209765 - 06/25/06 07:43 PM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
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John,

Look in the Books Forum. All the information is there.

In IC XC,
Father Anthony+
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#209766 - 06/26/06 11:31 PM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
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Registered: 03/25/05
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Is there a website that has the English version of the Divine Liturgy used by ACROD?

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#209767 - 06/27/06 08:04 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
Chtec Offline
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Registered: 01/27/02
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Loc: Sharon/Hermitage, PA

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#209768 - 06/27/06 08:18 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
JohnS. Offline
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Is the chanting of the Beatitudes at the third antiphon from our Pre-Nikonian days?

I see that they are in the 1942 Liturgikon. Why have they disappeard from the Ruthenian Church?

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#209769 - 06/27/06 08:25 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
ByzKat Offline
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Registered: 06/22/04
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Quote:
Originally posted by JohnS.:
Is the chanting of the Beatitudes at the third antiphon from our Pre-Nikonian days?

I see that they are in the 1942 Liturgikon. Why have they disappeard from the Ruthenian Church?
The Beatitudes are chanted IN PLACE of the Third Antiphon, whenever the Typical Psalms are used in place of the First and Second Antiphons. (The Ruthenians use the (Paschal) antiphons year round, where the Russians use the Typical Psalms and Beatitudes more commonly.)

The Beatitudes were omitted from most previous people's editions of the Pittsburgh liturgy; they are restored in the proposed People's Book being discussed in this forum.

Yours in Christ,
Jeff Mierzejewski

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#209770 - 06/27/06 08:31 AM Re: Download the New Liturgy!
JohnS. Offline
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Cool. Thanks Jeff.

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