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#216189 - 12/07/06 01:20 AM
Re: CHRISTOLOGY: Saint Nektarios
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Dear Alice, If you are like me, you have a few books that you are reading at the same time, and it may be a while. I just wanted to drop the seed of potentially good book. I am finally glad that some of Saint Nektarios' many books are starting to finally make it into English, and by the the look of this one, seems to be one of the better approaches to Christology with short essays compiled into one book. Time will tell and hopefully others will hae the chance to read it and discuss it. In IC XC, Father Anthony+ BTW, the good fathers at Roscoe keep me up to date on their publishing ventures, so I had the book on the way before Thanksgiving.
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Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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#216196 - 12/07/06 10:35 AM
Re: CHRISTOLOGY: Saint Nektarios
[Re: Father Anthony]
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Might you post the information on how to order this book to make things easy?
Many thanks!
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#216524 - 12/10/06 02:14 PM
Re: CHRISTOLOGY: Saint Nektarios
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Dear Father Anthony, I am currently reading the book by Saint Nektarios on Christology, and I am truly perplexed. Although I love Archmandrite Joseph dearly, and consider him a truly saintly Elder, the following in his foreword is puzzling: ...the failure of medieval pholosophy and theological Scholasticism, and later the anthropocentric Enlightenment of the West carried man far from the Truth. Now I say that I found it puzzling, because the book itself appears to me to be a 'scholarly' approach to our Lord Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and many of the quotes and idea's of our dear Saint Nektarios are by more contemporary writers that are products of the 'Enlightenment'. Actually I am truly awed by the 'scholarly' knowledge of Saint Nektarios and can't help but realize that he must have had a deep knowledge of French. I do know that he corresponded with an RCC bishop, and have to assume it was in French. Also Saint Nektarios' knowledge of the different religions that exist and have existed throughout history, is very contemporary, something that again, could only have come about because of the excessive scholarly knowledge that exists within our Western culture. Now we could say that Saint Nektarios was trying to reach minds that were products of the Enlightenment, and therefore reflected this in his writings, but I don't think so. I think our Saint himself became through his knowledge, a product of that enlightenment.  Am I wrong? Zenovia
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#216552 - 12/10/06 07:28 PM
Re: CHRISTOLOGY: Saint Nektarios
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Actually you are not wrong in a way. Saint Nektarios was a very intelligent man and received the best possible education that was academically and spiritually available for his time.
He is known to have written many works in Greek, this and one other are now available in English. I do not think though that his approach was to those of the Enlightenment, but to the masses in the areas that he loved and served. You have to remember texts such as these were not readily available at the time he wrote them. Mass publication had not yet taken off, and a great deal of the population was barely literate. Religious education as we know it today, was in a deplorable state, with most that were teaching it in the state schools barely knowledgeable in the subject they taught.
This book was written to counter the ignorance of that era. To educate the masses, was the saint's goal, and thus enlightening to the truth of the faith. It is no wonder that the books were a success not only in the saint's times, but up until this day primarily in the many Greek speaking societies, and now through translations into other tongues so that all may share in his treasures. I do not believe that the "Enlightenment" had much to do with it the saint's educational emphasis, but rather the saint's love for those he served and their spiritual needs and education.
In IC XC, Father Anthony+
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Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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#216762 - 12/12/06 11:25 PM
Re: CHRISTOLOGY: Saint Nektarios
[Re: Father Anthony]
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Dear Father Anthony,
Thank you for your response. Actually, I should have said he was awakened to the 'thoughts' of the Enlightenment through his profound knowledge and contacts with the West. What I believed happened was that those thoughts were very prevalent among the intelligencia in Greece as well as all of Europe. It was the time that the Bolshevik revolution started in Russia because of it,, and when our dear Saint tried to exorcize someone, he found it was very difficult. When mentioning to the possessed that he was very powerful, the entity responded that 'yes, there are three of us'. One is the head of Russia, (this was 1917 when Lenin took over), and the other is in China.
It was also the time that the three children were persecuted at Fatima, so I have to assume these 'idea's' were prominent throughout Europe.
What I find interesting, although never referred to, is that by not becoming the Patriarch of Alexandria, (although desperately sought by the populace at the time), and by being the head of the Rizarios school, he managed to help produce, (through his prayers and efforts), true and devout priests. This kept Greece from becoming communist itself. God works in mysterious ways.
Zenovia
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#221859 - 01/30/07 02:16 PM
Re: CHRISTOLOGY: Saint Nektarios
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An orthodox friend of mine once gave me a little book about the spiritual teachings of Saint Nektarios. I was impressed. In my home village here in Finland there is an orthodox church of Saint Nektarios. I use to visit it every now and then... Sancta Nectarios - ora pro nobis!
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