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#225999 - 03/08/07 02:02 AM
Re: A Potentially New Approach...
[Re: Uspenije]
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Glory to Jesus Christ!
Rather than writing epistle after epistle demanding that the bishop rescind his previous statements, perhaps you would consider a few points:
1) He has spent nearly a decade working upon this. He is unlikely to revoke due to several epistles.
2) He truly believes that this is in the best interest of the Church. This holds the same result.
I propose, therefore, a compromise. Why not ask the bishop to revoke the mandate, and the exclusive nature of his proclaimation. Allow both versions of the rite to be celebrated, side-by-side. If the new rite is truly the better, then certainly it would overtake the old one; this is a measure of merit. Then, perhaps, after a few years of rumination, he might be inclined to revoke the decision entirely.
Just a humble thought of an insignificant man.
-Uspenije Nobody told the powers that be to spend a tenth of a century and countless dollars to fix something that isn't broken. They did this themselves. Just modify what is there. Make the '65 Liturgicon mandatory and everyone SHOULD be happy. Didn't Vatican II and JPII suggest this? Etnick... Your Pravoslavny Christian...
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#226047 - 03/08/07 01:25 PM
Re: A Potentially New Approach...
[Re: Athanasius The L]
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I don't have a firm opinion as to which version of the Divine Liturgy I personallly prefer. Ryan I do have a firm opinion. I prefer the Ruthenian Recension, all of it. Without abbreviations, alterations, invented rubrics, or inclusive language. I am not sure I like the idea of two books co-existing side by side. One corrupted revised one, and one unrevised, whole and traditional. I think that would not be good. But it would be better than the present situation, where in June, the traditional Liturgy will be forbidden. That is tearing me up. My pastor won't even talk about the new Liturgy, and when we ask him what he is going to do, he just turns and walks away. I hope he has the strength to leave us in peace, with the Liturgy we love. Pray for him. Nick
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#226104 - 03/08/07 09:40 PM
Re: A Potentially New Approach...
[Re: Uspenije]
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Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 621
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Glory to Jesus Christ!
Rather than writing epistle after epistle demanding that the bishop rescind his previous statements, perhaps you would consider a few points:
1) He has spent nearly a decade working upon this. He is unlikely to revoke due to several epistles.
2) He truly believes that this is in the best interest of the Church. This holds the same result.
I propose, therefore, a compromise. Why not ask the bishop to revoke the mandate, and the exclusive nature of his proclaimation. Allow both versions of the rite to be celebrated, side-by-side. If the new rite is truly the better, then certainly it would overtake the old one; this is a measure of merit. Then, perhaps, after a few years of rumination, he might be inclined to revoke the decision entirely.
Just a humble thought of an insignificant man.
-Uspenije The Divine Liturgies of Sts. John Chrysostom and Basil the Great have conflicting purposes with the RDL promulgated by the Ruthenian Bishops. The Divine Liturgies of Sts. John Chrysostom and Basil the Great have the purpose of Theosis, union with God. The Church Service promulgated by the Ruthenian Bishops is a mockery of the Divine Liturgies of Sts. John Chrysostom and Basil the Great and has union with the world as its purpose. The Rusyn Recension and the RDL are mutually exclusive. "If the new rite is truly the better, then certainly it would overtake the old one; this is a measure of merit. Then, perhaps, after a few years of rumination, he might be inclined to revoke the decision entirely." Not so. The Roman Catholic Tridentine Mass is Holy and truly better than the Novus Ordo Missae. Yet, the Novus Ordo rapidly overtook the Tridentine Mass even though the Tridentine Mass was never "Officially" banned.
Edited by InCogNeat3's (03/08/07 09:40 PM)
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