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#230341 - 04/14/07 10:20 PM
"Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
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Registered: 03/25/07
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Can anyone tell me where I might find the list of those who were involved with the changes to the Divine Liturgy? Also, what contribution did Valerie Karras have with the revision? I had seen her name mentioned a few times in these various forums. thank you
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#230342 - 04/14/07 10:24 PM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: true faith]
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Registered: 02/24/07
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See page 3 of the foreward in your new hymn book. There were four of your shephereds total. i am still trying to figure out what they were trying to say. It was very confusing.
My bible study group is still researching what biblical texts that were actually used.
Eddie
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#230348 - 04/14/07 10:43 PM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: EdHash]
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The foreword says this edition was prepared by the Interparchial Liturgical Commission and Intereparchial Music Commission. I wonder who specifically by name.
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#230374 - 04/15/07 05:13 AM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: Ung-Certez]
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I trust that everyone knows what a camel is!
Christ is Risen!
Fr. Serge
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#230433 - 04/15/07 09:10 PM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: Fr Serge Keleher]
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I trust that everyone knows what a camel is! A diplaced cousin of the llama. Eddie
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#230434 - 04/15/07 09:14 PM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: true faith]
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The foreword says this edition was prepared by the Interparchial Liturgical Commission and Intereparchial Music Commission. I wonder who specifically by name. Committees do a lot for leaders of various institutions. But the four names assigned to the foreward are names of bishops. Ultimate responsibility falls on the shoulders of the bishops. They hold the trump card in decisions, not committees. This is usually the case in many congregations; and I am sure it is the same in the Catholic and Orthodox churches. None of the committee names are in the new byzcath pew hymnal. What are tehse shepherds like? Eddie H.
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#230456 - 04/16/07 05:23 AM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: EdHash]
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I will try to duck when the rocks start flying at me, but I will say this anyway. The RDL is so much better than what we had. Granted, some of you may have been privileged to have the full and unabridged liturgy, but that's a far cry from what we were doing. It is wonderful to have the text and music together without having to shuffle the gray paperbound book and the handful of music leaflets we once used. The layout is good, the book is well-designed, and the music seems better. Did I say it is perfect? No. But books do have future editions and corrections can be made over time.
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#230463 - 04/16/07 07:35 AM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
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You are safe from any rocks which might have come from this direction - there is no reason why you should not hold and express your opinion on this forum (although perhaps this is the wrong thread).
I served the unabridged Divine Liturgy yesterday, as I normally do. Nobody threw any rocks at me either. Try it; you'll probably like it!
Christ is Risen!
Fr. Serge
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#230465 - 04/16/07 08:38 AM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
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Father Serge and ByzanTN, Christ is Risen! Somehow you have already managed to steer this thread off topic. Neither of your posts has anything to do with the question asked in the opening post. If you want to make commentaries about the celebration or whether or not the RDL is better or if the rocks will hurt you or not  , please start a thread(s) dedicated to those topics. In IC XC, Father Anthony+ Administrator
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#230612 - 04/16/07 10:22 PM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: Father Anthony]
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Xristos Anesti! "if the rocks will hurt you or not" I've always taken that for granite! 
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#230791 - 04/17/07 06:51 PM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: Fr Serge Keleher]
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I trust that everyone knows what a camel is!
Christ is Risen!
Fr. Serge Indeed He is Risen! I give up, what does your response mean?
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#230817 - 04/17/07 08:01 PM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: true faith]
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Camel = a horse designed by committee, parhaps? (see subject)
Yours in Christ,
Jeff
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#230820 - 04/17/07 08:04 PM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: true faith]
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The submitted list of members omitted Msgr. Alexis Mihalik, who is still a member.
I believe the "camel" reference is to a joke that is told that a camel is a (horse?) put together by a committee. At any rate, a camel is a very useful animal, and superior to horses in many ways.
Fr. David
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#231052 - 04/18/07 07:11 PM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: Father Anthony]
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Christ is Risen! Here's an interesting quote which should return us to the announced topic of the thread: People do not 'make up' either a language or a liturgy. People learn language and liturgy. Dom Gregory Dix wrote that liturgy is the main activity of Church life and ends by forming the ideas of those who live this life. We do not make the liturgy; the liturgy makes us! The depth and breadth of the classic rites come about because the real creator of these rites is always the Church, and not some particular person, no matter how holy and how gifted that person might be. Still less is the creator of liturgy a committee, no matter how representative, nor a legislator, no matter how wise . . . Good liturgies are not written; they grow. Nobody creates a native language; people learn their native language, as an essential element in their cultural heritage, which exists independently of our desire or preferences, whether we like it or not. Archimandrite Robert Taft, address to The Encounter of the Eastern Catholic Hierarchs of Europe, Nyiregyhaza, 30 June - 6 July 1997, passage in the precis of Father Archimandrite's paper, Eastern Churches Journal, volume 6, No. 1, p. 34. Fr. Serge
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#231054 - 04/18/07 07:16 PM
Re: "Committee" responsible for the revised Divine Liturgy
[Re: Fr Serge Keleher]
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Indeed He is Risen!
That's really great.
So what happened between then and the meeting in 1998 in Connecticut? Someone should ask Fr. Taft.
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