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Byzantine Infant Baptism #233643
05/08/07 12:58 PM
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I am Byzantine Catholic & my husband is Roman Catholic. Our 3 month old daughter will be getting baptized in a few weeks in the Byzantince Catholic church. I know that during this she will be baptized, confirmed & will recieve communion.

Please excuse my ignorance, but since I haven't attended any Byzantine baptisms (except for my own), I'm not very familar with the whole process. Can anyone please give me some details as to the whole process? Should I not bring her in her baptismal gown and just change her after she is immersed? Part of this will be a half hour before mass and then during mass.

Thanks for all your input!


Re: Byzantine Infant Baptism [Re: mismarie] #233649
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When my children were baptized, we brought them dressed. When we got into the church we undressed them and wrapped them in a new, soft white towel. Keeping them wrapped in a towel made it easier for our priest to anoint all the places he needed to, plus made it easier for the baptism. The baptismal garment was given to the pastor upon our arrival as it is presented during the service after the baptism when the priest intones, "The Servant of God (Name) is clothed in the robe of righteousness, in the Name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

I hope this helps. God bless your little one on her special day!

Re: Byzantine Infant Baptism [Re: Stephanie Kotyuh] #233658
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Thank you! That helps a great deal!

Re: Byzantine Infant Baptism [Re: mismarie] #233680
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Didn't your priest take you through the whole event? It can be quite involved if you are not prepared.

Also, please pick active members of the Byzantine church to represent the baby as godparents. So many times I see outsiders standing up for a child and not even realizing what they are committing themselves to.

Re: Byzantine Infant Baptism [Re: stivvy] #233727
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Does your priest baptize by immersion? That makes a difference regarding the questions you've asked.

Fr. Serge

Re: Byzantine Infant Baptism [Re: Fr Serge Keleher] #233951
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Make sure you and your husband decide which church you are entering your daughter into and communicate that to your priest(s). It sounds like you plan for her to enter the Byzantine church, but without specifically making this decision, she will follow the church of her father (despite her Byzantine initiation) and will be a Roman Catholic. You may enter her into the Byzantine Church if you and your husband both decide to do so. Baptizing her in the Byzantine church doesn't do this, though.

Before Liturgy the priest should be doing the pre-baptismal exorcism rites. The godparents will renounce Satan and accept Christ on your daughter's behalf. During Liturgy, she will be anointed on all her senses, her hands, and her feet, so make sure she is bare-footed. After that she will be baptized, then she will be chrismated. After that, she will be dressed in her baptismal garment. You'll have enough time to dress her before communion, when she will receive the Eucharist first. Don't forget to take her baptismal cross to dress her in.

I think I've remembered it correctly. If not, I've been detailed enough that someone else can correct me.

Congratulations!

Re: Byzantine Infant Baptism [Re: Wondering] #233964
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Originally Posted by Wondering
Make sure you and your husband decide which church you are entering your daughter into and communicate that to your priest(s). It sounds like you plan for her to enter the Byzantine church, but without specifically making this decision, she will follow the church of her father (despite her Byzantine initiation) and will be a Roman Catholic. You may enter her into the Byzantine Church if you and your husband both decide to do so. Baptizing her in the Byzantine church doesn't do this, though.

Before Liturgy the priest should be doing the pre-baptismal exorcism rites. The godparents will renounce Satan and accept Christ on your daughter's behalf. During Liturgy, she will be anointed on all her senses, her hands, and her feet, so make sure she is bare-footed. After that she will be baptized, then she will be chrismated. After that, she will be dressed in her baptismal garment. You'll have enough time to dress her before communion, when she will receive the Eucharist first. Don't forget to take her baptismal cross to dress her in.

I think I've remembered it correctly. If not, I've been detailed enough that someone else can correct me.

Congratulations!


Wondering... You explained it to a tee!

We had a double infant baptism at my parish two weeks ago and it was exactly as you described.

All you who have been baptized into Christ, have put on Christ, Alleluia! smile

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Re: Byzantine Infant Baptism [Re: Wondering] #233989
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Wondering - We will be discussing with the priest that we do want to enter her in the Byzantine church.

As far as the baptismal cross -- I was under the impression that this was a Greek Orthodox tradition. I'll have to discuss this with the priest this week. Hopefully I can find one to purchase within the next few weeks.

Thanks for all your input!

Re: Byzantine Infant Baptism [Re: mismarie] #234162
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Are the Ruthenians doing a full triple dunking?

I saw several baptisms in my time with the BCC but they did not seem to be total dunkings, more like a bodily 'swish' without getting the face under, but I am not really sure because I could never get close enough. That was only one parish so I would not be able to say that all Ruthenians baptisms are the same.

The first baptism I saw at the OCA was a 'ker-PLUNK' three times straight down and under. Every one since has been quite the same.

Michael

Re: Byzantine Infant Baptism [Re: Hesychios] #234317
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We recently had two infant baptisms and one adult baptism. You can see the Holy Saturday baptism here.

http://saintbasilthegreat.org/files/CynthiaMary/index.html


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