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#247894 - 08/05/07 02:48 PM Re: Urgent Questions for the Very Rev. Archpriest David M. Petras [Re: ajk]
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Actually, I do think it is one of the associations in the Creed. JPII in the theology of the body states:

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The analogy of the love of spouses seems to emphasize above all the aspect of God's gift of himself to man who is chosen from ages in Christ (literally, his gift of self to Israel, to the Church); a gift that is in its essential character, or as a gift, total (or rather 'radical") and irrevocable...God's gift of himself to man, which is what the analogy of spousal love speaks about, can only have the form of a participation in the divine nature...In this way the analogy of spousal love indicates the radical character of grace: of the whole order of created grace.


When for men, God becomes man...he takes on human nature, a nature which is shared by male and female alike. Nonetheless, he became a man who shows his great love for his spouse, the Church, even by shedding his blood for her.

For this reason, I believe it would be incorrect to translate the Creed, "for us human beings...he became a human being." This translation is proposed by some feminists who reject an all-male priesthood and hence, they ultimately reject sacramental marriage as a sign of Christ's love for his Church.

It is the multiple meanings of anthropos that allow this meaning of the text to come through. It is anthropos, not aner, that is used in Ephesians.

Rejection of marriage, and its consequent life-giving unity, is the "heresy" of our day. In the secular order, this is seen through the acceptance of same sex marriage, abortion and contraception. As believers, we have a truly radical difference with the world on this point.

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#247907 - 08/05/07 04:18 PM Re: Urgent Questions for the Very Rev. Archpriest David M. Petras [Re: Monomakh]
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Originally Posted By: Monomakh
And all of this discussion regarding this being a restoration has me wondering, if this is a restoration could someone ask Archbishop Basil to have Vespers instead of evening liturgies on Saturday evenings at the Cathedral in Pittsburgh?

Monomakh


Does Met. Basil serve at the Cathedral in Munhall every week? I guess that my understanding is: he is not the pastor, but only that he throne is there, making it the mother church (whoops! sorry, parent church wink ) of the archdiocese. The pastor, then is responsible for the schedule of services.

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#247911 - 08/05/07 04:28 PM Re: Urgent Questions for the Very Rev. Archpriest David M. Petras [Re: John K]
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Originally Posted By: John K
Originally Posted By: Monomakh
And all of this discussion regarding this being a restoration has me wondering, if this is a restoration could someone ask Archbishop Basil to have Vespers instead of evening liturgies on Saturday evenings at the Cathedral in Pittsburgh?

Monomakh


Does Met. Basil serve at the Cathedral in Munhall every week? I guess that my understanding is: he is not the pastor, but only that he throne is there, making it the mother church (whoops! sorry, parent church wink ) of the archdiocese. The pastor, then is responsible for the schedule of services.


A hierarch has his "cathedra" at an assigned cathedral, meaning that it is his church and see. Though it is his church, most hierarchs do have duties that require him to be away from his cathedral such as parish visitations, etc. Generally what is appointed is a dean or rector for the cathedral parish so that the normal pastoral and liturgical needs of the parishioners are met. this would include scheduling most of the liturgical services and when they are served. The dean or rector though would have to coordinate with the hierarch to confirm there would be no scheduling conflicts for when the hierarch is present and serves. This is how most cathedral parishes function.

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