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#250120 - 08/21/07 08:56 PM Re: "And in the Holy Spirit" [Re: 70x7]
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Originally Posted By: 70x7
My question IS a theological one...


There are two question here: (1) Is the designation "Creator" properly applied to the Holy Spirit, and (2) What is the best translation of &#918;&#969;&#959;&#960;&#959;&#953;&#959;&#957; / &#1078;&#1080;&#1074;&#1086;&#1090;&#1074;&#1086;&#1088;&#1103;&#1097;&#1072;&#1075;&#1086; as found in the Creed?

Concerning (1), as mentioned above, the Latin liturgy witnesses to Veni Creator Spiritus; also, from scripture, perhaps:

Psalm 104:30 You shall send forth your Spirit, and they shall be created; and you shall renew the face of the earth.

Dn. Anthony

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#252537 - 09/13/07 07:22 PM Re: "And in the Holy Spirit" [Re: tjm199]
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Originally Posted By: tjm199
Talk about slave labor!

Tim
Don't forget Deacon means servant.

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#252540 - 09/13/07 07:41 PM Re: "And in the Holy Spirit" [Re: ajk]
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Originally Posted By: ajk
Is the designation "Creator" properly applied to the Holy Spirit
Yes to the Father as Creator.
Yes to the Holy Spirit as Creator.
Yes to the Jesus as Creator. - mentioned many times in the NT especially in Revelation I believe.
Otherwise you fall in to the Modalism (roles not persons) heresy.

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