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#262586 - 11/16/07 10:12 AM Re: Checking in with the Old Country [Re: Ung-Certez]
AMM Member Registered: 04/04/05 Posts: 3355 Loc: US	Originally Posted By: Ung-Certez It is also still used by many OCA parishes as well. Again, is it truly a Latinization or just a local Ruthenian Recension custom? Ungcsertezs Why on earth does it matter. Edited by AMM (11/16/07 10:12 AM)
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#262589 - 11/16/07 10:19 AM Re: Checking in with the Old Country [Re: Deacon Robert Behrens]
Ung-Certez Member Registered: 02/17/02 Posts: 2406 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA	Originally Posted By: Jessup B.C. Deacon Originally Posted By: Serge Keleher If anyone wants a "Litmus Test" of the authenticity of "preterpiviy" or any other allegedly liturgical text, rather than appealing either to a particular parish or to a manual for chanters, it is sensible to look in the liturgical books themselves. Does anyone claim to have found "preterpivy" in the Lenten Triodion? Fr. Serge It may not be in the Lenten Triodion, but they sing it in the ROCOR cathedral in Mayfield, Pa (they also use "Trojce" candles). Dn. Robert What? An Orthodox parish using a "Trojca" candle, what heresy! I'll have to notify the Recension Police at once! U-C
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#262600 - 11/16/07 10:55 AM Re: Checking in with the Old Country [Re: Ung-Certez]
Etnick Member Registered: 11/12/02 Posts: 1175 Loc: West of Johnstown	The Preterp'ivyj is done at my OCA parish, which is mostly made up of Rusyns with Greek Catholic roots. Half the church also kneels during the Otce Nas. But that's another story.
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#262733 - 11/16/07 06:18 PM Re: Checking in with the Old Country [Re: Ung-Certez]
Fr Serge Keleher Member Registered: 06/22/06 Posts: 5599 Loc: Dublin	People may carry whatever candles they like for all of me (except the diabolical kind). But claiming that "preterpiviyj" is some sort of liturgical text is inaccurate, no matter who is singing it. Or when. Or where. Fr. Serge
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#263007 - 11/17/07 06:51 PM Re: Checking in with the Old Country [Re: Fr Serge Keleher]
Orthodox Pyrohy Forum Keilbasa Sleuth Member Registered: 01/17/05 Posts: 1502 Loc: In the Alleghenies, the mother...	Many Orthodox parishes use the trojca candle. Come to where I live and have a sample for yourself.
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#263011 - 11/17/07 06:57 PM Re: Checking in with the Old Country [Re: Orthodox Pyrohy]
Ung-Certez Member Registered: 02/17/02 Posts: 2406 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA	Matt, I'm glad that this tradition is still observed by many Orthodox parishes. Ungcsertezs
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#263023 - 11/17/07 07:16 PM Re: Checking in with the Old Country [Re: Ung-Certez]
Orthodox Pyrohy Forum Keilbasa Sleuth Member Registered: 01/17/05 Posts: 1502 Loc: In the Alleghenies, the mother...	Ung, me and you don't live too far apart, and many of the Orthodox churches between us probably will be using the trojca tomorrow morning.
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#308605 - 01/02/09 04:42 PM Re: Checking in with the Old Country [Re: Orthodox Pyrohy]
AMM Member Registered: 04/04/05 Posts: 3355 Loc: US	Ours sees use every Sunday.
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#308730 - 01/04/09 03:47 PM Re: Checking in with the Old Country [Re: AMM]
AMM Member Registered: 04/04/05 Posts: 3355 Loc: US	Here it is link. Edited by AMM (01/04/09 03:48 PM)
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#308742 - 01/04/09 06:19 PM Re: Checking in with the Old Country [Re: AMM]
Etnick Member Registered: 11/12/02 Posts: 1175 Loc: West of Johnstown	Originally Posted By: AMM Here it is link. We use the identical set at my parish.
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