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I couldn't recollect in which forum we previously have discussed this topic, so decided to post it here. If Father Anthony or one of my fellow mods has a better memory and it merits moving, feel free to do so. By accident, while searching for something else, I ran across a site (unfortunately in German) that has an incredible photo display of clerical headgear (as well as papal shoes and all sorts of other clerical garb). I wish I could read it (my mastery of German makes translation tedious), but the photos alone make it a worthwhile (and fun) viewing. See Klerikale Kopfbedeckungen [dieter-philippi.de] and don't hesitate to go exploring the other drop-down menu choices. (While Latins dominate the upper half of the incredibly long series of photos which one can scroll through, we of the East are well represented in the lower half of the page.) Enjoy Many years, Neil
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What, no pics of the Ruthenian/Ukrainian Greek Catholic Kopak? It should have been put right after the Jewish Rabbi's headgear since it very similar! Ung
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Actually, it's the Jewish Cantor's hat that the Kopak resembles.
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Dear Neil,
This was very nice. I was probably looking at it from a different perspective than the rest of you--I adore the history of costume, and in these many different clerical hats, which were 'de rigeur' to wear throughout history in lay men as well, I saw a glimpse into both church and lay history...
Infact, many styles of religious dress today are simply the styles of everyday dress for everyone at certain points in history. The fur trimmed hat of Hasidim today is simply the fashion of hats which all men wore in 17th century Poland. The nun's habits both in the Eastern and Western styles are also replicas of lay clothes popular at certain times and in certain places.
By looking at all these hats, I also remembered that throughout history men were not always as plainly dressed as they are today. They rivaled women in fashion and fanciness.
Different peoples were known for their different style of dress--and this varied even from region to region in the same country. Hats were often the exemplifying factor in regional costumes.
Also, there has always been a practical reason for the wearing of hats by men and women, and that was the cold which they had to endure indoors without central heating. It is a well known fact that most of one's body heat leaves through the head.
Today we can admire the craftsmanship, fabric, detail, and ornamentation of the costumes of nobility in the past through our clerics of today!
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Alice,
I thought it was fascinating myself. When I have a few hours to spend on it, I will painstakingly do a bit of translating (haven't read any German in about 40 years, beyond a word here or there) because I want to understand the motivation of the gentleman who created the site (who is the father of a beautiful relatively young baby, from a couple of photos that I saw).
There were also sections on liturgical staffs, including several Eastern ones, shoes, and various other accoutrements - but headgear is definitely his favorite subject.
Given the quality of photography, I'd be more than happy to see him expand his hobby (?) into other liturgical vesture. It would be most interesting.
Many years,
Neil
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I don't know, after this picture, I'm not sure I trust Neil any more. [ Linked Image] Seriously, thanks for posting it, it was fascinating. Is it a website for religious clothing?
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For the priest who likes to play baseball: [ Linked Image]
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The famous picture of Patriarch Josyp Slypyj [ Linked Image]
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I can see why this one went out of style: [ Linked Image]
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Doc, how many radio stations you think he can pick up with that hat?
in reference to the picture posted immediately above my post.
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Famous? I would have called it "notorious"!
Patriarch Joseph was flummoxed into wearing this thing by someone who showed him a portrait of Cardinal Isidore of Kyiv, thus bedecked. It turned out later that the portrait had been painted at least a hundred years after Cardinal Isidore's repose!
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Is it a website for religious clothing? Dr Eric, I don't think so - my strong suspicion is that the balding gentleman on the site's front page has the same fascination with clerical garb (particularly headgear) that I have with delineating Rites, Traditions, Churches, Rescensions, etc. I keep hoping that someone more facile at German than I am will take a glance at it and give us some insight. I rather think that the baseball-cap style biretta might have been to the liking of Richard Cardinal Cushing, of blessed memory, who thoroughly enjoyed baseball - what say you, Father Serge? [ Linked Image] [ Linked Image] Unfortunately, I couldn't find any of him in his famous straw boater, which is what he usually wore to Fenway. Many years, Neil
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I don't know, after this picture, I'm not sure I trust Neil any more. [ Linked Image] This is the doctoral vesture of the University of Coimbra in Portugal
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I was about to ask. The doctors of the University of Coimbra have my sympathy.
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