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Re: GC Bishops at St. Nicholas Monastery, Mukachevo [Re: Miller] #268483
12/13/07 10:07 PM
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The Basilians made a copy of the icon and replaced the original that was enshrined in the monastery church before the communists arrived. It was the copy that was taken to Moscow. The original was hidden and later enshrined at Maly Berezny.

There are books that mention the icon being taken to Moscow.
You can also read about it in Father Christopher Zugger's book, The Forgotten.


I was told the following article from the religious newspaper "Promin Lyubovi" states that a copy was made and taken to Moscow, while the original was hidden:
http://www.promin-lubovi.narod.ru/public/4/pub4st6.htm




I must be blind bit I also don't see a reference to the copy being taken to "Moscow".
The NKVD is mentioned and the hiding and return of the icon.
By the way the home page of the above site is:

http://www.promin-lubovi.com/

Does anyone here know more about this group. The original web page seems to have been in Russia (ru at the end). Looks very Latinized or is it a Roman Catholic group.


Dear Griego,
I admit that I don't read Russian, but with my knowledge of Ukrainian I have also looked at this article and can't find the info you mentioned about a copy being made and taken to Moscow by the Orthodox.
Does Fr. Zugger read or understand Ukrainian or Russian or Rusyn? Maybe he was working with a bad translator or just made an honest mistake. That can happen to anyone in all innocence, not by intention is what I mean.
Halia

Re: GC Bishops at St. Nicholas Monastery, Mukachevo [Re: Orest] #268917
12/17/07 06:46 AM
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Thanks for this thread. This Orthodox founded monastery, then Greek Catholic one, then Orthodox again under Communism seems to be becoming a growing source of pilgrimage and pride for Rusyn Orthodox and Greek Catholics alike since Communism's fall.

Perhaps this monastery's unique history of belonging to both Churches for centuries is a beautiful example that The Holy Spirit is calling to remembrance in Hearts, Minds and Souls.

May the our Prayers and Thoughts be with the St. Nicholas Monastery in Muchachevo.

Christ Is Among Us! Indeed He Is And Ever Shall Be!

Three Cents (a grandson of Ladomirova)

Re: GC Bishops at St. Nicholas Monastery, Mukachevo [Re: Orest] #269115
12/18/07 01:27 AM
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Also, are the protodeacons in the pictures from Uzhorod? I am really impressed with the Church in Zakarpatia (or Transcarpathia, or what ever the preferred term is). I wish the guys across the mountains in Galicia would take their lead in not being scared of having beards and long hair and wearing hats (although I hope there is more to it than just the external side).

Re: GC Bishops at St. Nicholas Monastery, Mukachevo [Re: Daniil] #269119
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http://www.mgce.uz.ua/ukr/news.php?id=76

Пообіді єпископи вирушили до Мукачева. Після попередньої домовленості з владикою Агапітом, єпископом Мукачівсько- Ужгородським УПЦ, владики, священики та семінаристи (близько 30 осіб) отримали можливість відвідати Мукачівський Святомиколаївський монастир на Чернечій горі. Супроводжували їх ігумен монастиря Преподобний о. Василій з монахом Мартиріаном. Їм показали старовину церкву, потім на могилі о. Мефодія Кралицького (ЧСВВ) присутні відслужили панахиду за спочилих там наших монахів і єпископів. Фотографії з цієї події можна проглянути у розділі "Фотогалерея".

"After lunch the bishops departed for Mukachevo. Having made arrangements with Bishop Agapit, Bishop of Mukachevo-Uzhorod UOC, the bishops, priests, and seminarians (close to 30 people), had the opportunity to visit the Mukachevo Saint Nicholas Monastery on Chernecha (Monastery) Hill. They were escorted by the hegumen of the monastery, venerable Fr. Basil along with the monk Martinian. They were shown the old church, and afterwards, at the grave of Fr. Methodius Karlytsky (OSBM), those present served a panakhyda for the monks and bishops burried there. Photographs of this event may be seen in the 'Photogallery.'"

Re: GC Bishops at St. Nicholas Monastery, Mukachevo [Re: Daniil] #269158
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Beards are quite commonplace in the episcopacy now - off the top of my head I can think of Koltun, Voronovsky, Vozniak, Dzhurak, Meniok, Ivasiuk, all of whom I have seen in klobuk as well.

Re: GC Bishops at St. Nicholas Monastery, Mukachevo [Re: Diak] #269524
12/20/07 01:55 AM
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Yeah, but that seems only to happen to bishops (like Bishop Bohdan), who, all of a sudden, have a beard and some kind of klobuk when they are consecrated bishop. I wish it would trickle down to the priests and deacons too.

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