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#304184 - 11/13/08 10:04 AM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: Logos - Alexis]
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Edited by AMM (11/13/08 10:05 AM)

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#306552 - 12/10/08 06:44 AM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: Orthodox Catholic]
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Congratulations to the members of the Forum for handling this topic so irenically.

Over in the Eastern Catholicism section of the Catholic Answers Forum the Moderator has banned discussion on this topic.

Wonderful to see that contributors here can handle it without contention.


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#306605 - 12/10/08 04:09 PM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: Hieromonk Ambrose]
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Originally Posted By: Hieromonk Ambrose
Congratulations to the members of the Forum for handling this topic so irenically.

Over in the Eastern Catholicism section of the Catholic Answers Forum the Moderator has banned discussion on this topic.

Wonderful to see that contributors here can handle it without contention.



We're lucky that here we don't have certain Latin posters insisting that some Eastern Catholic Saints aren't actually Saints. That always makes for a flame-fest!

Peace and God bless!

P.S. How is your health, Fr. Ambrose?


Edited by Ghosty (12/10/08 04:09 PM)

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#306621 - 12/10/08 07:03 PM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: Ghosty]
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Originally Posted By: Ghosty
P.S. How is your health, Fr. Ambrose?
Ghosty! It's nice to see all the old familiar faces here.

Thanks for the enquiry about the health. Most days are very good but there is the odd one when if I were a Roman Catholic, I could spring ten souls out of Purgatory. grin

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#306630 - 12/10/08 07:59 PM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: Hieromonk Ambrose]
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Originally Posted By: Hieromonk Ambrose
... if I were a Roman Catholic, I could spring ten souls out of Purgatory. grin


I'm sure even any Orthodox among the ten would be most grateful that Catholics are willing and able to oblige.

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#306631 - 12/10/08 08:15 PM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: ajk]
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Originally Posted By: ajk
Originally Posted By: Hieromonk Ambrose
... if I were a Roman Catholic, I could spring ten souls out of Purgatory. grin


I'm sure even any Orthodox among the ten would be most grateful that Catholics are willing and able to oblige.
Ajk,

From what I am understanding from the Eastern Catholics here on the Forum, no suffering is involved for Eastern Catholics (nor for Orthodox?) in Purgatory. Only Roman Catholics undergo that. The rest of us, if I understand Marduk correctly, do not suffer but are there simply to increase in holiness - not an unpleasant thought.

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#306632 - 12/10/08 08:24 PM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: ajk]
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Originally Posted By: ajk
I'm sure even any Orthodox
My apologies, Father Deacon, for addressing you as Ajk. I clicked on your profile and discovered you are a deacon.

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#306644 - 12/10/08 09:17 PM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: Hieromonk Ambrose]
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Hieromonk Father Ambrose (bless),

Being so close to the Kingdom, you may be unaware that those like myself, so far from holiness, many times it takes quite some suffering for our holiness to increase.. grin

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#306649 - 12/10/08 09:33 PM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: Hieromonk Ambrose]
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Originally Posted By: Hieromonk Ambrose
Originally Posted By: ajk
Originally Posted By: Hieromonk Ambrose
... if I were a Roman Catholic, I could spring ten souls out of Purgatory. grin


I'm sure even any Orthodox among the ten would be most grateful that Catholics are willing and able to oblige.
Ajk,

From what I am understanding from the Eastern Catholics here on the Forum, no suffering is involved for Eastern Catholics (nor for Orthodox?) in Purgatory. Only Roman Catholics undergo that. The rest of us, if I understand Marduk correctly, do not suffer but are there simply to increase in holiness - not an unpleasant thought.


I only speak for myself though I try to accurately state the theology.

But my remark was about (your) suffering in the flesh; here you now seem to have put yourself in purgatory.

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#306650 - 12/10/08 09:39 PM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: Hieromonk Ambrose]
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Originally Posted By: Hieromonk Ambrose
Originally Posted By: ajk
I'm sure even any Orthodox
My apologies, Father Deacon, for addressing you as Ajk. I clicked on your profile and discovered you are a deacon.


Father, bless, no apology necessary, but I thank you for the kindness of your consideration.

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#306702 - 12/11/08 09:46 AM Re: Venerating Non-Orthodox Saints [Re: Ghosty]
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Dear Ghosty,

Well, Rome is so reticent about glorifying Eastern Catholic saints (which is why we like to borrow as many as possible from the calendar of our Orthodox brothers) that the ones that do make it through all the hoops and hurdles of the revered Latin Congregation for canonizations are sure to be solid!

What was that you were saying about St Philomena? smile

Alex

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