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#277529 - 02/08/08 06:44 AM I just HAD to laugh at this one..
Matthew Katona Offline
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Registered: 12/17/06
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The new Parma website ( http://www.parma.org ) , which is INFINETLY better then the last one, have this under the “Education” link:

The church always has considered education one of her primary tasks

So much for the inclusive language clause huh? This is precisely what is bothering me about the new view of Byzantine Faith. They say one thing, and then do another and there is no consistency across the board. More and more I feel like the Byzantine Faith, which I was born into, is held together by scotch tape, wax paper, and a bit of stick glue.

Then under schools, they have only one listed, which is of course the one in Cleveland. Being this the EPACHY website, the one which taxes our Parishes, shouldn’t they have ALL the Byzantine Schools under their branch? I’m pretty certain St. Nick in Lorain Ohio has one and I’m sure there are more.




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#277542 - 02/08/08 08:52 AM Re: I just HAD to laugh at this one.. [Re: Matthew Katona]
Deacon Robert Behrens Offline
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Over the centuries, it has always been proper to use feminine imagery in describing the Church (i.e. "Holy Mother Church"). This lines up with the imagery of Christ as bridegroom, and the Church as bride (which, by the way, is one of the arguments used to buttress the Church's stance on only ordaining men to the priesthood, the priest being an "alter Christus").

Dn. Robert

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#278137 - 02/12/08 02:04 AM Re: I just HAD to laugh at this one.. [Re: Matthew Katona]
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Originally Posted By: Matthew Katona


Then under schools, they have only one listed, which is of course the one in Cleveland. Being this the EPACHY website, the one which taxes our Parishes, shouldn’t they have ALL the Byzantine Schools under their branch? I’m pretty certain St. Nick in Lorain Ohio has one and I’m sure there are more.





I'm pretty sure that St. Nick in Lorain was closed at the end of the school year last year leaving St. Mary's in Cleveland as the lone school in the Eparchy of Parma (BCA). It is true that there is a Byzantine Catholic school in the Youngstown area but they fall under Pittsburgh. I just heard the other day that St. Josaphat grade school in Parma is closing. It is under the UGCC in Parma Ohio. Families are already searching out other Roman Catholic parishes for schools and of course may end up joining those parishes because of the money incentive for lower tuition. So there go more young Greek Catholic families out the door.

What are we doing to ourselves?

Monomakh

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#278138 - 02/12/08 02:58 AM Re: I just HAD to laugh at this one.. [Re: Monomakh]
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Let's not be too critical of Parma's website. I had occasion last year to correspond with the eparchial staff regarding something on the site which I thought folks might find confusing. They were very gracious in their reply and informed me that they were in the process of revamping the site. They were also most solicitous in asking for suggestions, recommendations, etc. - although they didn't know me from Adam. I was impressed and I think the new site has much to recommend it.

Many years,

Neil
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"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."

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#278283 - 02/12/08 03:39 PM Re: I just HAD to laugh at this one.. [Re: Monomakh]
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Originally Posted By: Monomakh
Families are already searching out other Roman Catholic parishes for schools and of course may end up joining those parishes because of the money incentive for lower tuition. So there go more young Greek Catholic families out the door.

What are we doing to ourselves?



Parish subsidies for their own families for *other* parishes' schools.

In Ames, IA, there were two RC churches. St. Cecilia's had a school; St. Thomas didn't (both RC). The school had a tuition, which was then lowered for all catholics based on the diocesan subsidy for the "catholic rate." St. Cecelia's parish then subsidized each student from their own parish for the "in-parish" rate. St. Thomas each year sent a subsidy to be divided among all their families, which paid part of the "catholic rate" for those families. In practice, it varied from year to year as to which parish paid the lower rate.

There is no reason an eastern parish (or even Orthodox, for that matter) couldn't offer a subsidy for catholic education to its families (OK, it takes money smile. After a year or two, the parish might notice the eastern families being far more active than average, and might even take this into consideration in offering that parish a reduced rate . . .

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#278293 - 02/12/08 03:54 PM Re: I just HAD to laugh at this one.. [Re: dochawk]
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OK, we are way off topic here. Since this thread had little connection to the subject of the RDL to start with, I am hereby closing it.

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