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Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: Edmac] #278821
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Originally Posted by Edmac
My copy of VonSchmeckenmacher was lent to the Subprior of St. Pantagruel's Abbey in Duluth who needs it for his magnum opus, Beer in the History of Western Christianity and who is worse than usual at returning books.

You must be thinking of St. Pantagruel's Church and Taconite Plant in Duluth. St. Pantagruel's Abbey is in New Ulm, which is guarded by Herman the German, for obvious reasons.

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Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: theophan] #278830
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Originally Posted by theophan
Living not far from the famed groundhog, we have a saying here in central PA. If it's reported taht we have six more weeks of winter, we say, "Let's eat the rat!" biggrin laugh biggrin


Bob,

A perfect addition to the non-Fast version of Two Guys' Chili biggrin

Many years,

Neil


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Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: Irish Melkite] #278845
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That gave me an idea and after a fast search I found these delectable delights that can be used for Basil the groundhog. I am sure my Mrs will appreciate them.

Recipe 1
Recipe 2
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Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: Secret Squirrel] #278847
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only one snag with those SS - they ain't exactly fasting are they ?

I mean surely groundhogs have faces [ recognisable] and spines and are warm bloods ?

We need a definitive ruling here

Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: Our Lady's slave] #278848
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Originally Posted by Our Lady's slave
only one snag with those SS - they ain't exactly fasting are they ?

I mean surely groundhogs have faces [ recognisable] and spines and are warm bloods ?

We need a definitive ruling here

For those on the Old Calendar, it should be no problem. If not that is what freezers were made for. biggrin

Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: Secret Squirrel] #278849
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True enough - you have solved the problem there

Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: Nan] #278859
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Nan,

I feel blessed to see that Herman the German has made his way into this conversation. Although, I think the Herman the German we should be referencing is the polite gentlemen emblazoned on the cans and bottles of Old German beer, now brewed by Pittsburgh Brewing Company.

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Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: domilsean] #278864
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Either youns have been fasting TOO much or youns have been drinking TOO much.

I think I lost it after the first post.

Ed


Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: EdHash] #278865
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Ed - if this Brit can cope with it - you can smile

OH - and the NC folk are fasting so they certainly haven't been overindulging biggrin

Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: Our Lady's slave] #278878
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Animals with vertebrae are classified as "meat."

So, even fish, frogs' legs, and snakes are forbidden during Great Lent, except on March 25 (unless that is Friday).

Where we live, there are some huge rattlesnakes in nearby hills. We live in a hilly rock pile. My husband has had to kill some rattlers because they were endangering lives. I have heard that the meat tastes similar to chicken; however, he left it for the birds, especially the crows.

This is also why eating lobster, shrimp, and crabs is allowed during Lent. They have an exoskeleton but no spine. Just hold the butter. smile

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Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: Elizabeth Maria] #278883
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But then, won't you be violating the fast?


Elizabeth Maria:

Actually Groundhog day was foud days before Ash wEdnesday so one would have had four days to enjoy the "rat" and clean up the leftovers before Fat Tuesday--Mardi Gras. wink biggrin

BOB

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Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: Secret Squirrel] #278884
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That gave me an idea and after a fast search I found these delectable delights that can be used for Basil the groundhog. I am sure my Mrs will appreciate them.

Recipe 1
Recipe 2
3 additional recipes


Secret Squirrel:

When I was growing up, there were people poor enough that did make regular meals of these rodents to fee their families. I've eaten rabbit, squirrel (sorry if any were relatives), grouse, pheasant, but never had a go at groundhog. We used to use them for target practice with our 22 rifles--farmers liked to have people take them out because they cause a lot of damage to farm machinery when they establish themselves in a field. They peer out from their burrows and all you see is the head through your scope.

BOB

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Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: theophan] #279186
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or two days till Pure Monday.

Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: Marina Karlovna] #279288
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The picture's cool, but when will there be a proper groundhog icon to go with the troparion, and who will write it?!

Re: Troparion of the Groundhog [Re: indigo] #279290
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You find the Iconographer and you may get some contributions smile


not saying what variety of contributions of course biggrin biggrin biggrin

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