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Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: andreios] #276577 02/02/08 03:47 PM
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The website mentions--- Morning Office=Utiereň --- for the new cathedral church. Is this different from the RDL? Will i find this in my books?

I went to the Bratislava parish/cathedral website and am listening to their choir. I feel like I am in heaven.

Ed

Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: EdHash] #276589 02/02/08 04:59 PM
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Ed,

That is Matins and not the Divine Liturgy. Matins, along with Vespers are the hinge pins of the liturgical day. Sadly, most Byzantine Catholic churches in the USA celebrate neither. And no, Matins would not be in the new pew book.

John

Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: Danielik] #276863 02/04/08 08:25 PM
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Mnohaja i blahaja lita. God grant us many years.

Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: andreios] #276865 02/04/08 08:29 PM
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Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: andreios] #277147 02/06/08 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by andreios
Originally Posted by Serge Keleher
Beautiful Church - lovely icons - joyful choir.

But I'm a tad puzzled - how come the same people are "Greek Catholics" in Slovak but "Byzantine Catholics" in English?

Fr. Serge

Thanks. The reason is that in English is preferred the term Byzantine Catholic (cfr. byzcath.org and not greekcath.org) - and I think, this is the official term too. If you say Greek Catholic in English, someone could think ethnically Greek. While in Slovak "greckokatolícky" is officially used and no one would think on Greece. Though, more and more is used "katolíci byzantského obradu" or "katolíci byzantsko-slovanského obradu" in contemporary Slovak. But as an one-word adjective there is only "gréckokatolícky" (and not "byzantskokatolícky").



The reason is complex and centers around history in the USA. I don't want to chance going off topic on this.

Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: Orthodox Pyrohy] #277627 02/09/08 03:11 AM
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What does the establishment of the new Slovak Metropolia mean? Does Prešov ( with 137,000 members) now outrank its mother diocese Muka?evo (370,000, according to the Annuario Pontificio for 2007) ?

Will Muka?evo be the next Metropolitan Church?

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Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: John Schweich] #277647 02/09/08 10:33 AM
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Changed the date of the feast of the elevation of the Exarchate of Košice to the Eparchy of Košice. It will be celebrated in the Cathedral Church of the Nativity of Mother of God in Košice on Monday February 18th 2008. So there are three big celebrations day after day.

http://www.grkat.nfo.sk/eng/metropolitan-church.html


Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: andreios] #278558 02/14/08 09:29 PM
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Anyone ho desires to see the Sunday celebration, could see it on line in Slovak television - http://www.stv.sk/live/?2 - on Sunday 17th February, beginning at 10:00 a.m. local time (9:00 a.m. GMT, should be at 4:00 a.m. EST, 3:00 a.m. CST, 2:00 a.m. MST, 1:00 a.m. PST, if I counted well). The transmission should will take 2 hours.

Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: John Schweich] #278908 02/16/08 09:12 PM
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John,

The Metropolitan Archbishop of Presov outranks the Bishop of Mukacevo, but Mukachevo is not part of the Metropolia, so it won't have much effect, except for when the Bishops are together. (Anyone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

This is similar to the daughter Church in America "outranking" (with regard to hierarchy) the mother Church in Europe....now the daughter Church in Slovakia "outranks" the Mother Church in Transcarpathia. The Ukrainian Catholic Church would be the potential "limiting" factor for the Mukacevo eparchy (from additional eparchies and thus a Metropolia.)

I hope this answers your question.

Fr. Deacon Paul

Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: Paul B] #278978 02/17/08 05:23 AM
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It might be nice if one of these were elevated to a Major-Metropolitan. Then put all the others, including Pittsburgh, under it. There is strength in numbers.

Then perhaps put the Major-Metropolitan under Antioch of the Melkites, where they can count on receiving good impartial governance and guidance. There is no reason to have Roma choosing and elevating bishops when there is a perfectly good Eastern church structure to do it.

Just a thought.

Michael

Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: Hesychios] #278980 02/17/08 05:44 AM
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Pictures from the Episcopal chirotonia of Bishop Peter (Rusnak), Eparch of Bratislava: http://foto.tkkbs.sk/viewer.php?album=albums/2008/02/16_POVysviacka&pn=1

Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: Father Valerian] #278983 02/17/08 06:28 AM
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Father Valerian,

Bless, Father. Thank you for the link - wonderful pictures. May God grant many years to Vladyka Peter. Eis polla aeti Despota!

Neil


"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: Irish Melkite] #278997 02/17/08 12:11 PM
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I thought Roman Bishops weren't suppose to dress in Eastern vestments? Why did Cardinal Tomko wear his Roman Choir dress, then place a Byzantine short omorphor over this choir attire? I'm sure those in the Orthodox Church are wondering about this practice!

Ung

Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: Ung-Certez] #279000 02/17/08 01:16 PM
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Dear Ung-Certez:

Cardinal Jozef Tomko (Roman Catholic hierarch, former prefect of Propaganda Fide) was the main celebrant... "ALL" vested in Byzantine vestments. He repeated 1990...when he was the principal celebrant for the chirotonia of Bishop Jan Hirka.The cardinal with the small omophorion is Cardinal Sandri, prefect of the Congregation for Eastern Churches. I wonder about this practice...

Re: Byzantine Catholic Metropolia in Slovakia!!! [Re: Father Valerian] #279001 02/17/08 01:20 PM
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Fr. Valerian,

Slava Isusu Christu!

I thought this practice was suppose to end?

Ung

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