This is heating up. The US Embassy in Belgrade has been firebombed http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7256158.stm so I imagine this will get about 100 times more publicity than over a 100 churches getting torched in Kosovo. Earlier Belgrade saw aa anti-Independence rally with 150.000 people, and Serbian military reservists had a violent confrontation with Kosovo police.

The American foreign policy often rewards our enemies and punishes our friends. Sometimes our friends get a belly full of it and react. Good for Serbia. I hope it makes a positive difference.

CDL

Today the infamous president of Romania suggested Mr. Tadic, president of Serbia, to give up Kosovo, and in return Serbia would be rewarded with the entrance in the EU. Miserable president has Romania.

All logic goes right out the window when I hear about US foreign policy towards Kosovo. I have to change the channel on my radio or TV when I hear about it now, it just infuriates me to even hear about it. One day my kids may have to go to Europe and risk their lives in a war to preclude radical Islam from taking over Europe because of this idiocy. Then again, a shot may not even need to be fired, when birth rates of Christians are compared to Muslims, it is probably just a matter of time. Europe has been so feminized and neutered that they can't even stand up and defend themselves anymore. I recently saw footage of Muslim youths rioting in France, and the French police officers cowering in fear behind one officer who was the man of the group (yes there were males cowering too). They had obviously been hired under some absurd affirmative action like program and thus people who never should have became a police officer did, and now that all heck was breaking loose they had no clue what to do besides cower behind the one guy that system hadn't broke down into a feminized 21st century man.

The last post talked about Serbia being in the EU. I've got news for the EU, not all in Serbia are in on the secularism and feminization that the EU is into and most Serbs want nothing to do with Western culture.

Shame on the West for allowing the heartland of Christian Serbia to be handed over to the Islamists who will not stop here, but continue their march across the continent.

Monomakh

My Alabanian friend and his family are quite pleased with what as happened so far. Hopefully Serbia will not invade Kosovo... if she dose I hope the European Union with take quick action to stop Serbia and protect ethnic Albanians from getting slaughtered like last time.

It's sad to see that you ignore the current situation of Orthodox churches beoing exploded and burnt to the ground.


Also, please consider, Kosovo was the heart of Serbian culture in the past. Can you explain to the board how it became 90% Muslim? If you are concerned with slaughter and genocide then you wouldn't be against Christian Serbia and would realize that the reason that Kosovo is now 90% Muslim occurred under horrible circumstances. Just because the American media is more concerned about who Paris Hilton sleeps with and if Brittany threw up on herself yesterday doesn't mean that atrocities against the Serbs aren't happening.

Monomakh

I'll continue to ask the rhetorical questions. Why do we support Wahhabist Saudi Arabia ? Why do we aid Christian hating Pakistan ? Why did the Bush administration resume sending military aid to Christian persecuting Indonesia in 2002 ? Why did we invade Iraq and make life a living hell for it's Christian population ? Why do we demonize Syria, where Christians are fully protected ? Why do we side with the Moslem population of Kosovo that destroyed over a 100 Orthodox Churches during riots ? Why did president Bush oppose the Armenian Genocide Bill ? The actions of our country in the last 10 years clearly indicate to me at least that this government is now actively pursuing an anti-Christian agenda. I refuse to blindly stand by the Stars and Stripes (now made by slave labor in China) in the latest pre-emptive strike against whoever it considers an enemy of it's globalist New World Order.

You want to know what's sad? It's sad that Serbians burnt down the village then killed some of my Albanian friends cousins and uncles, all of whom were Albanian Orthodox Christians. Can you explain why? I can, the Serbs didn't care, Orthodox, Christian, whatever they had dark skin so they were the enemy. Albanians are human beings.

GOD BLESS KOSOVO AND HER INDEPENDENCE!

I agree the words of Monomakhs.

Some questions:

With what money was funded UCK, army of Kosovo?

Will enter Albania NATO at Bucharest summit?

I think so: USA and the Western countries are demons of war. From whom had Croatia weapons?

And Vatican urges to prudence and moderation. Again politics. With whom do they unity? With the fat land named America?

For USA is just ok. Today is Kosovo. Tomorrow can be another land. We have a saying: tongue hasn't bones. Namely, a word of today can be changed without shame tomorrow or forgotten.

Kosovo is Serbia. Point.

Do you know what do the USA now? They stole against the law, they put a deep dagger. Of course, far from the fat land. They widened the wound. What healing will be? The fat land will sleep comfortably, but those all people must live there and what peace will be?

In that Kosovo there are Serbians. The USA thought of them and tried to find a solution? Nope, just cynicism.

West against Orthodox east...old ghosts...perhaps yes or no, I do not know. A time ago the monasteries from Transylvania were destroyed by canons one by one. What was that?

If the EU starts into Kosovo, don't think for one minute that they may not face the Russian army coming to the defence of the Serbs. What do you think caused the Eastern front in WW1?

The Russians have stated that they oppose this move on the part of Kosovo and will stand behind Serbia to the end. While this may be rhetoric and saber rattling, I wouldn't count on it.

And while we're at it, let's drop the "ethnic Albanians" when we start comparing the two sides. We're essentially talking about Moslem Albanians at war with Orthodox Christian Serbs. We've essentially taken a step back in time to the remnants of the Ottoman Empire where those who apostated to become Moslem for political advantage over their neighbors came to dominate their Crhistian neighbors and helped the Ottoman rulers persecute the Christian population.

Kosovo is the most ancient part of Serbia and it doesn't take a historian to understand that what has happened there is ethnic cleansing--the kind that the US and EU have denounced elsewhere. But it is a fact that in the haste to downplay Christian values on the Continent any group other than Christians is the one that the powers-that-be will support. The other scandal is that the Western Powers have had a sad history of siding with anyone but Orthodox Christians because that tends to undermine Russia and the earlier Russian Empire.

History seems to be repeating itself in the Balkans. Wonder if the 100th anniversary of the murder of the Archduke at Sarajevo will see another war starting there--if not before.

And what is this about establishing a Moslem "beachhead" in southern Europe?

BOB

Then, with respect, why on Earth did Serbs murder my best friends family who were Orthodox Albanians? And 90% of Albanians in Kosovo are Muslim so I fail to see how the remainder 10% of Albainians can be grouped with the Muslims when they are not Muslim!

Who cares about the history of the land? Who cares about the demographic implications 100 years from now? I live in the present, that is all that is real.

The land I live on was Indian 200 years ago, but it is mine now! If a bunch of Mohawks came by and said that my land now belongs to them because it belonged to their great-great-great-great grandpa then rape my girls and kill my brothers because I would not surrender, I would fight back, just like the Albanians! Then if the Mohawks, after killing my family, demanded I belong to the Mohawk Nation instead of the United States, I woulld, just like the Albanians, say no!

Latest news indicates that an unidentified charred body was just found inside the U.S. embassy in Belgrade.

If this turns out to be an American embassy personnel, the U.S. will be hard put not to lodge a strong protest against Serbia for allowing the demonstrators entry into the compound, an extension of U.S. territory and considered inviolate under international law.

Or worse, the U.S. might send in troops to defend its embassy.

Amado

It's good that the U.S. Embassy was earlier closed and all diplomatic personnel were instructed not to report for work since Sunday, except security details and the Marine Guards.

Hopefully, none of the above was the charred remains found inside the embassy.

Amado

It is now being reported that all U.S. embassy personnel, including security details and the Marine Guards, have been accounted for.

So the charred remains must belong to one of the demonstrators who gained entry into the embassy?

Amado

Kahless:

With respect, you view that region as an American and I can certainly understand your perspective. However, the problem is that in that region, the people have historically tended to be able to compress time in such a way that 1000 years ago is yesterday. Many years ago, some of our weekly magazines carried stories complete with interviews of people in the Balkans and it amazed many Americans that someone could speak of trying to settle a score that had offended a family member 600 or more years ago. The idea of avenging one's family honor runs deep there, just as it does in the Middle East. And this is something that we just have little to compare it to as we try--if we do--to understand that region or any other region of the world. We tend to view honor as something negotiable; avenging honro as something to "get over." We tend to think that there is little or nothing for which we should put our lives on the line or fight for. In this we are the odd men (and women) out in the world and in history.

In America, we tend to think that something six months to a year is old and we think that history is of little importance before our own births. But that isn't the way the rest of the world thinks. We've also got this myth that we are the vanguard of the world, that everyone wants to imitate us, that what we have built here over 200+ years can be easily trnasplanted to other nations, and that we can manipulate the world to get what we want and our vision of the world into place.

That's why we puddle along and are loathed in so many parts of the world.



Unfortunately, whether someone is Orthodox or not matters little to many there. You've got to be "of my group and of my religion" to fit in. Otherwise you are the enemy whether we share the same religious beliefs or not. Marian had it right in another thread where he stated that Kosovo was a hornets' nest. I guess we'll find out. The Serbs probably did not distinguish: the family was Albanian and part of the group trying to take over their ancestral homeland.

That seems to be another area we just don't seem to get. Our history is that of people who pick up and go where the work is. Taht's what everyone's ancestors did to get here from all prts of the world. We simply don't attach a great deal of significance to home, hearth, land, or ancestors' patrimony. But we're the odd men out in those areas, too.

This may also explain why minority Christians in Moslem lands draw so little sympathy from our people. If you're an Iraqui, you must be Moslem; a Palestinian, you must be Moslem: don't confues the average American with distinctions or detail, they just don't get it.

BOB