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#285913 - 04/10/08 08:22 AM
Re: Serbian sanctus bells
[Re: Etnick]
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I am "cradle" Orthodox. Thus, I do not know Latin terminology. Can you please tell me about "Sanctus bells". Thanks.
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#285917 - 04/10/08 09:05 AM
Re: Serbian sanctus bells
[Re: Halia12]
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I believe they are speaking of small, hand held bells or chimes that are rang in three short bursts during the chanting (lo mass recitation) of Holy, Holy, Holy leading to and with more during the consecration. There are also some short burst ringings around communion time. The idea is to focus the gathering’s attention.
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#285978 - 04/11/08 08:44 AM
Re: Serbian sanctus bells
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On additional note on this subject: one of the reasons for bells is that as time passed, the majority of laity did not know Latin and often assisted at Mass by private prayer or the Rosary. The bells alerted them to re-focus their attention and mentally assist the priest at certain parts of the Mass (as ourline by Byzantophile).
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#286011 - 04/11/08 06:12 PM
Re: Serbian sanctus bells
[Re: mwbonline]
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Yes, I've experienced "sanctus" bells at a Serbian Liturgy. It was a while ago. I seem to remember them being rung at the Epiklesis among other times. They also have some wonderful melodies.
Anyone know why their Patriarch wears a band around his kamilavka?
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#286013 - 04/11/08 07:28 PM
Re: Serbian sanctus bells
[Re: mwbonline]
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Registered: 10/18/07
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Loc: Philadelphia, PA
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On additional note on this subject: one of the reasons for bells is that as time passed, the majority of laity did not know Latin and often assisted at Mass by private prayer or the Rosary. The bells alerted them to re-focus their attention and mentally assist the priest at certain parts of the Mass (as ourline by Byzantophile). Caveat: Mostly if you were Irish. Most of the English Catholics (of the past) were well versed in Latin and could follow along. The Italians & Spanish can easily follow along seeing as Latin is very similar to their two languages and, before the 1910s, they would have pronounced Latin as they did their own languages. The Germans and Austrians would often have been singing hymns throughout (a.k.a. Deutsche Singmesse), and the French would have been listening to the organ play.
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#286102 - 04/12/08 05:29 PM
Re: Serbian sanctus bells
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I wonder why bells are rung during the various points of the Liturgy, e.g. the Symbol of Faith and the Irmos of the Theotokos?
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#292900 - 06/23/08 11:18 PM
Re: Serbian sanctus bells
[Re: Altar Server]
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not all churches in our dioceses use the Sanctus bells because there was nothing in the Vatican II documents about them just like women stopped wearing the veil because there was nothing about it in the Vatican II documents but if I remember right they are still used in Papal Liturgies I think Its a beautiful tradition and many of the pre Vatican II traditions should be brought back in my opinion but back to the sanctus bells its up to the priest in our dioceses so no I wouldn't say we are holding on to any thing the use of Sanctus Bells is Valid in the NO Mass In Christ, David In the Philippines, bells are no longer rung at the Sanctus, but they are universally rung during the Elevations, and sometimes at the beginning and end of Mass.
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