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Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Prester John] #287892 05/03/08 04:11 AM
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Why? The spirit of the law is lost with this exaggeration to keep the letter. What is the alternative if a big cup is not available? Multiple altars for tandem consecrations per Liturgy? Multiple temples otherwise empty for a one a day spiritual vitamin? Almost like a lost chapter from GULLIVERS TRAVELS. If there was to be a Divine Liturgy at Yankee Stadium how many gallon cup would you suggest? Would a truck in the Entrance be acceptable? Putting a moratorium on the number of participants at a Eucharist would be more realistic. Yah, limit the number who can worship... or was that already done "Two or three".

Dont say Im irreverent nor complain President Bush manipulates executive powers. Honestly WWJD? (what would Jesus do?)

Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Prester John] #287894 05/03/08 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Prester John
Originally Posted by Serge Keleher
I prefer to consecrate the Precious Blood in as many chalices as are needed


What happened to one bread, one cup? Is this common in the Eastern Catholic churches? We're not permitted to do this at all!


Whose "we"?

I am guessing you are not Greek? As Father alluded:

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The Greeks and others are not so scrupulous in the matter; if they expect many to Holy Communion, they will simply put a suitable amount of wine in a suitable number of chalices (with a few drops of water in each, of course), and carry them all in the Great Entrance, taking care to set each one directly on the ntimension.

Re: Huge Chalices [Re: A Simple Sinner] #287899 05/03/08 05:24 AM
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For the members of the Russian Church:

Where/how does one store such an extraordinary large chalice and diskos? and how/where does purification take place?

Another thought which came to mind - Instead of using a ladle, has the creation of a spigoted or spouted chalice been considered?

Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Michael_Thoma] #287900 05/03/08 05:57 AM
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My recent thought is what does one use for a lance, a lance?

Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Mykhayl] #287902 05/03/08 06:13 AM
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What to use for the air (vale)? The Good Friday plachanytcha (shroud)?

Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Fr David Straut] #287907 05/03/08 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fr David Straut
I suppose that it is possible. However, I've seen it done many times at Hierarchal Liturgies and it is done very, very carefully and I've not seen a single drop spilled ever. I must say that Orthodox seem to be much more careful of profaning the Body and Blood of Christ than do typical Roman Catholics in America. This is my own observation. I'm sure it's different in the Philippines and elsewhere in the Catholic world.

Fr David Straut



Wish it were different in my country, but alas, no.

Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Prester John] #287909 05/03/08 08:28 AM
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Prester John writes:
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We're not permitted to do this at all!


Obedience is an important virtue, and nowhere else so much as in matters concerning the Eucharist. So by all means do as the Bishop requires. And please respect those who also do as their Bishops direct, even though this may result in a different practice.

Christ is Risen!

Fr. Serge


Re: Huge Chalices [Re: ebed melech] #287921 05/03/08 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ebed melech

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Now you why the Russian Church only has either basso-profundo deacons or tenors. After carrying around a chalice like that, I would think the deacon would be a tenor for a while until after the hernia operation. Also no one in the photo has a lean girth. Maybe if one has to take the sacraments like that on a regular basis, one's girth would be expanded. biggrin

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You never spoke a truer word biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

And I believe that the clergy present could be described traditionally as ' healthy ' biggrin

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Also, I hope no deacon is driving for a few hours after doing the ablutions on that chalice!

Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Secret Squirrel] #287925 05/03/08 01:53 PM
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm now there you have a very very good point smile

Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Mykhayl] #287926 05/03/08 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mykhayl
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My recent thought is what does one use for a lance, a lance?

A blessed chain saw with a three-bar cross on it? Can you imagine being in the congregation during proskomedie when you hear the holy chain saw being revved up? It might put a tad bit of a damper on that prayerful moment.

Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Secret Squirrel] #287928 05/03/08 02:31 PM
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Is it real or Photo Shop?

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Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Ung-Certez] #287929 05/03/08 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ung-Certez
Is it real or Photo Shop?

X.B.! B.B.!

Ung

Definitely the real thing

Re: Huge Chalices [Re: Secret Squirrel] #287930 05/03/08 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel
Also no one is the photo has a lean girth. Maybe if one has to take the sacraments like that on a regular basis, one's girth would be expanded. biggrin

Having some knowledge of the Bishops involved, I would say that Archbishop Kyrill of San Francisco (the Hierarch on the extreme right) is a thin man.

Fr David Straut (of wide Archpriestly girth)


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