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Who cares? Just choose the particular recipe you like best and eat...

Alice

Christ is Risen!! Indeed He is Risen!!

I have to go with Alice on this one. Just bring on lots of whatever you want to call it and bring along lots of other picnic food.

I suggest a "throwdown" wink like they have on the food channel. If you'd all like to come to Hollidaysburg, PA, I'll see if I can rent the park in town and we'll have the first annual Kielbassa competition and picnic sometime this summer. Just be sure to bring along tons of your own favorite and some potato salad and some . . .

BTW, there used to be a meat market in Portage that made their own homemade and it was out of this world.

BOB biggrin

Woohoo! Legion Park is always a good place to have a picnic.

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Oy, I must add my 2 cents , I teach everyone in my office it's kowbassa - ukrainian prononciation .
Pyrohy can be varenyky -vareni- boiled hence they also are if you must pierogi. or baked -pecheni .

Halupki - do you mean holubtsi -cabbage rolls ? you know in the east here it is lunchtime ...

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In reality there is a rich assortment of sausage types, recipes, meats, etc. all throughout Eastern Europe.

Just in Ukraine you can go from the Krakovska or Wieska-style ham kovbasa of the Premyshyl' and L'viv areas, down to the Bukovinska and other mountain styles (probably my favorites), and many others such as Donetskiy, usually beef and something like a salami.

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That Secret Squirrel wink

But Secret Squirrel could this whole thing be a part of a conspiracy theory?--perhaps a Roman subversion to the culinary history of an entire region?
It might have been a plot by the Italians to Latinize the Slavs via culinary means! biggrin

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. . . there is a rich assortment of sausage types, recipes, meats, etc.

So let's bring them all together. We''ll just have to make sure the picnic follows a fasting, meat-free period like the Dormition Fast.

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Bliny? Make your own - it's not hard if you can find matzoh meal.

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Mr Orthodox Pyrohy, of course I know what pyrohy are! It was a linguistic joke, because I eat pierogi (being of Polish descent) and galumpki = halupki, of course.

Fr. Serge, I burn the darn things every time. The polish parish I grew up in is sooo good at frying bleeni that the line is usually the biggest at the annual picnic -- the wait can be over an hour long!

I've finally mastered my grandmother's dill pickle recipe... mmmmm!

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I've finally mastered my grandmother's dill pickle recipe... mmmmm!

Ok, the pinic's forming up. domilsean can bring a barrel of homemade pickles. biggrin

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Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel
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That Secret Squirrel wink

But Secret Squirrel could this whole thing be a part of a conspiracy theory?--perhaps a Roman subversion to the culinary history of an entire region?
It might have been a plot by the Italians to Latinize the Slavs via culinary means! biggrin

Well the first post does speak of the sausage being introduced into the Trans-Carpathian region in the 1600's by Jesuits. Most likely these were Italian Jesuits who studied in Rome. I think we maybe getting close to the answer. Can we crack the "Kielbasa Code?"

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Originally Posted by domilsean
Mr Orthodox Pyrohy, of course I know what pyrohy are! It was a linguistic joke, because I eat pierogi (being of Polish descent) and galumpki = halupki, of course.

Fr. Serge, I burn the darn things every time. The polish parish I grew up in is sooo good at frying bleeni that the line is usually the biggest at the annual picnic -- the wait can be over an hour long!

I've finally mastered my grandmother's dill pickle recipe... mmmmm!

We officially inducted you into the Rusyn nation remember?

Father Serge, Matzo meal is readily available in most grocery stores around here. Now I may have to make blini. But if Domilsean comes I'll have to make him pierogies.

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Who cares? Just choose the particular recipe you like best and eat...

Alice

Christ is Risen!! Indeed He is Risen!!

I have to go with Alice on this one. Just bring on lots of whatever you want to call it and bring along lots of other picnic food.

I suggest a "throwdown" wink like they have on the food channel. If you'd all like to come to Hollidaysburg, PA, I'll see if I can rent the park in town and we'll have the first annual Kielbassa competition and picnic sometime this summer. Just be sure to bring along tons of your own favorite and some potato salad and some . . .

BTW, there used to be a meat market in Portage that made their own homemade and it was out of this world.

BOB biggrin

SS. Peter and Paul ACROD Church in Windber make some great "domashi" Kolbassi and serve it at their food festival every August. Duzhe fajno indeed!

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Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel
Originally Posted by Orthodox Pyrohy
That Secret Squirrel wink

But Secret Squirrel could this whole thing be a part of a conspiracy theory?--perhaps a Roman subversion to the culinary history of an entire region?
It might have been a plot by the Italians to Latinize the Slavs via culinary means! biggrin

Ah, keep the Hunky Pravoslavny full of Kolbassi, and they won't care about the terms of the c.1596 and c.1646 Unions. Yes, that is an intriguing hypothesis, indeed!

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Ah, keep the Hunky Pravoslavny full of Kolbassi, and they won't care about the terms of the c.1596 and c.1646 Unions. Yes, that is an intriguing hypothesis, indeed!

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That's right, subjugation of the faith through a full stomach! And let's not forget that Frankish German sauerkraut that was foisted upon us to make the filioque more palatable. biggrin

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Also, let's not forget the Transylvanian connection in all this. The abundant use of garlic in kielbasi was to keep blood-thirsty vampires away. Without the use of garlic, our people were very sleep deprived because they always thought that these vampires were going to get them during the night.

It is no accident that this old country "cupola"
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is not an onion, but a garlic bulb.

This conspiracy may actually be getting tastier.

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SS. Peter and Paul ACROD Church in Windber make some great "domashi" Kolbassi and serve it at their food festival every August.

Ung:

Christ is Risen!! Indeed He is Risen!!

So when is their festival this year? Will you keep us posted?

BOB

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