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#294065 - 07/02/08 10:53 PM Listen to Benedict XVI and Bartholomew Recite the Creed in Greek
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http://wdtprs.com/blog/2008/06/benedict-xvi-and-bartholomew-i-together-the-creed-in-greek/

You need to scroll down the page to find the link to hear them recite the Creed together in Greek. This is great! The Greek text is also posted there so you can follow along!

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#294091 - 07/03/08 07:54 AM Re: Listen to Benedict XVI and Bartholomew Recite the Creed in Greek [Re: lm]
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Benedicite!

Thanks for posting this link! smile

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#294105 - 07/03/08 10:12 AM Re: Listen to Benedict XVI and Bartholomew Recite the Creed in Gr [Re: Latin Catholic]
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Next time, it would be nice to hear them both recite the Creed together in Latin - without the interpolation.

Fr. Serge

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#294113 - 07/03/08 11:20 AM Re: Listen to Benedict XVI and Bartholomew Recite the Creed in Gr [Re: Serge Keleher]
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Dear Fr. Serge:

Yes, but not in Rome!

The Creed in Latin should be recited together by the EP (or his representative) and Rome's representative to the celebration of St. Andrew's next patronal feast in Istanbul/Constantinople.

Just to reciprocate Pope Benedict's gesture of reciting the Creed in Greek with his All-Holiness, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartolomew, this year at the patronal feast of Sts. Peter and Paul in Rome.

Amado

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#294128 - 07/03/08 12:21 PM Re: Listen to Benedict XVI and Bartholomew Recite the Creed in Gr [Re: Amadeus]
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Would sound good - but it would sound even better in Rome, with the Pope's own voice!

Fr. Serge

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#294184 - 07/04/08 03:43 AM Re: Listen to Benedict XVI and Bartholomew Recite the Creed in Greek [Re: lm]
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Originally Posted By: lm
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2008/06/benedict-xvi-and-bartholomew-i-together-the-creed-in-greek/

You need to scroll down the page to find the link to hear them recite the Creed together in Greek. This is great! The Greek text is also posted there so you can follow along!


Thank you. I thought that the comments beneath the article were thought provoking and interesting to read. They were worth having a look at. They were also quite charitable. I thought this one was an interesting one:

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The Holy Father is trying to use the Greek pronunciation of Greek (!), but keeps slipping back into the classical pronunciation. Full marks for his fluency he is faster than the Patriarch! Patriarch is better at accenting the words, however, and has a more virile voice, as is common with eastern priests. Ever notice how the western priest is naturally a tenor, the eastern priest a bass?

Comment by Patrick 29 June 2008 @ 4:36 pm


The EP has an exceptional deep and resonant voice, and though the voices of Eastern clergy vs. Western clergy may be somewhat different in general, (as the poster points out), the only other Greek clergy I know who have *such* an exceptional deep and resonant voice as the EP are: the former Archbishop Spyridon of America and my priest.

Truly, having heard each one celebrate a Divine Liturgy was a treat...

I have also heard such deep voices in Russian clergy.

Is the *general* difference in voices which the poster above alludes to: ethnic or liturgic or a combination of both?

Alice


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#294197 - 07/04/08 08:03 AM Re: Listen to Benedict XVI and Bartholomew Recite the Creed in Greek [Re: Alice]
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Alice,

I do not know but the dominate bass tones as compared with the domnate tenor tones in the RC and in Protestantism was immediately apparent to both my wife and I. We at first thought that there must be some musical instrument playing these lower notes. Then we realized that not only were the tones lower but men were actually singing. It was and is a delight to both of us.

CDL

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#294199 - 07/04/08 08:31 AM Re: Listen to Benedict XVI and Bartholomew Recite the Creed in Greek [Re: carson daniel lauffer]
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In P. I. Tchaikovsky's admittedly rather operatic music for the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, the priest is a tenor and the deacon a bass.


Edited by Latin Catholic (07/04/08 08:32 AM)

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#294234 - 07/04/08 04:08 PM Re: Listen to Benedict XVI and Bartholomew Recite the Creed in Greek [Re: Latin Catholic]
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Many of the priests I have met in the Orthodox Church are tenors.

In fact, the choir has begun to depend on that, especially if the priest is on key. Whenever a visiting priest is a bass, it throws the choir off and they have to resort to using a tuning fork.

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#294346 - 07/05/08 11:29 PM Re: Listen to Benedict XVI and Bartholomew Recite the Creed in Gr [Re: Elizabeth Maria]
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I heard from "Light of the East" (plug for Fr. Thomas!) that it's the language and the phonology? of the Russian and Slavic peoples that give them such deep singing voices.

Elizabeth Maria can you help?

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