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#295474 - 07/17/08 10:47 PM
Re: Medieval Byzantium
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You should get a copy of the Rudder (Pedalion) which will provide you will the Byzantine commentary on the canons as well as insight into the issues of import to fathers of the Eastern Church. Often times the canon will say one thing and the fathers would take it another way.
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#295476 - 07/17/08 11:04 PM
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#295490 - 07/18/08 02:19 AM
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The Rudder is useful, certainly. But because of the commentary by Apostolos Makrakis, one must use it with care.
Fr. Serge
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#295503 - 07/18/08 08:39 AM
Re: Medieval Byzantium
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Father Serge is correct on this issue, but it is easy (in my judgment) to determine that parts of the workwffected by Makrakis.
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#295504 - 07/18/08 08:42 AM
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Terry,you have found the standard edition of the Rudder.
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#295551 - 07/18/08 09:43 PM
Re: Medieval Byzantium
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"Note however that the works are generally intensely spiritual, and must be read very carefully because of this."
They can also be easily misread or misinterperted if foreign approaches are taken to the text.
What I want to do is listen to texts. I want to listen to Aquinas and St. John of the Cross and anybody else I read from these recommendations.
With the authors which have been mentioned, it is easy for a contemporary reader to jump to conclusions and presume that one author fundamentally opposes another. Those perceived oppositions, even if supported it with quotes, might arise from a twisting and molding of the texts so they are then understood by one 'objective' form of philosophy. I would think that critic might take the risk of limiting the Subject of theology.
How could such an approach explain how the many authors of the bible spoke with one voice? (Not a voice in form or approach, but in meaning.)
I hope I'm not rambling too much, but maybe what I just wrote explains my intent and hope in reading with such diversity...If I do make it to grad school, I am not looking forward to specializing.
Terry Terry, I'm no expert, but it seems to me you're taking the right approach. I only said what I did because no one in my mind should uncaveatedly recommend the Philokalia (or other such books) to random people on the Internet. I wish you the best in your studies! Another secondary book I'd recommend is Christos Yannaras' Orthodoxy and the West (available from Holy Cross Hellenic College's press), about (for lack of a better description) the intellectual history of Greek Orthodoxy since the Palamite controversies. I wouldn't say he's authoritative (nor do I agree with each aspect of his understanding of Western Christianty), but the book is an excellent overview of the history behind many of the texts and their place in history.
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#295704 - 07/20/08 11:52 PM
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Try Hesychius "on Watchfulness and Prayer" in the Philokalia, Vol. I
Good for beginners.
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