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#296591 - 08/05/08 10:44 AM Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust
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The exarchate of the Jerusalem Patriarchate has formally ceased to exist in North America as of recently. The following is a new release concerning their new status and omophorion.

In IC XC,
Father Anthony+

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
August 5, 2008

Contact: Ecumenical Office
Tel.: 212.570.3593
Email: ecumenical@goarch.org


Decisions on Some Palestinian and Jordanian Communities in the USA

New York, NY - After a long process that began in 1993 related to the ecclesiastical status of a portion of the Palestinian and Jordanian communities in the USA, the portion connected to the Patriarchate of Jerusalem, there has been a final agreed decision by the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and the Patriarchate of Jerusalem concerning these communities. The Ecumenical Patriarchate and the Jerusalem Patriarchate have agreed that the canonical and pastoral supervision of these communities and their clergy should belong to the canonically established jurisdiction in the United States which is the Eparchy of the Ecumenical Throne in America, that is, the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America. Henceforth, the Patriarchate of Jerusalem no longer asserts any jurisdiction in the Western Hemisphere.

On Tuesday, April 1, 2008, His All Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew received His Beatitude Patriarch Theophilos III of Jerusalem, together with the senior member of the Holy Synod of the Jerusalem Patriarchate, Metropolitan Vasilios of Caesaria (Palestine) and other clergy. Final details for the implementation of the agreements were completed, with a mutual decision that these communities come under the canonical jurisdiction of the Archdiocese of America. Following the meeting at the Phanar, His Eminence Archbishop Demetrios of America was directed to proceed with the implementation of the agreements by the creation of a Vicariate for the inclusion of the clergy and communities within the Archdiocese of America. The official name of the Vicariate is: “Vicariate for Palestinian/Jordanian Communities in the USA.”

The clergy and communities of the Vicariate will be directly under the Archbishop of America and will report to the Archdiocese through the Vicar. Through the Archdiocese, all of these clergy and communities will be able to participate in the programs and agencies of SCOBA.
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#296603 - 08/05/08 11:56 AM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: Father Anthony]
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What about the parish that was formed from the Ben Lomond split? Weren't they under the Jerusalem patriarchate?

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#296606 - 08/05/08 12:22 PM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: John K]
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Originally Posted By: John K
What about the parish that was formed from the Ben Lomond split? Weren't they under the Jerusalem patriarchate?


I was wondering the same thing...

FDD

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#296612 - 08/05/08 01:21 PM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: ebed melech]
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Perhaps they should have a chat with Father David Anderson.

Fr. Serge

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#296624 - 08/05/08 04:12 PM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: Serge Keleher]
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"Bites the dust" seems rather harsh for the topic.

"Patriarchs agree on structure of pastoral care for Palestinian and Jordanian immigrants" is more like it.

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#296640 - 08/05/08 07:27 PM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: ebed melech]
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There's also the monastery in Reseca, GA ... I wonder under whose omiphorion they will find themselves?

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#296645 - 08/05/08 09:40 PM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: Father Anthony]
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It sure seems like Constantinople and Moscow are both gathering & consolidating their flocks and gearing up for some kind of Patriarchal Cold War.

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#296647 - 08/05/08 09:54 PM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: Serge Keleher]
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Originally Posted By: Serge Keleher
Perhaps they should have a chat with Father David Anderson.

Fr. Serge


Yes, great point. I'm sure that he knows them, since he had such an active role in their entry into Orthodoxy to begin with.

Fr. Deacon Daniel

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#296655 - 08/05/08 10:30 PM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: Two Lungs]
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Originally Posted By: Two Lungs
"Bites the dust" seems rather harsh for the topic.

"Patriarchs agree on structure of pastoral care for Palestinian and Jordanian immigrants" is more like it.


I have to agree... it is a re-organization.

Very interesting though.

I had heard TOTALLY unsubstantiated rumors that parties within the JPs jurisdiction in the US had remained loyal to the deposed patriarch (Irenaios Skopelitis)... Had that been the case, that would have made the situation more complicated still.

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#296657 - 08/05/08 10:38 PM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: crule]
Anthony Offline
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They also have a monastery in NY.

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#296675 - 08/06/08 12:53 AM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: crule]
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Originally Posted By: crule
There's also the monastery in Reseca, GA ... I wonder under whose omiphorion they will find themselves?


I can't imagine them going back with the OCA or ROCA at this point.

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#296701 - 08/06/08 08:03 AM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: Saponaria]
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Maybe you all did not read the initial press release all that well. It state that the parishes etc. have been transferred en-masse to the new Vicariate under the EP, and that these communities have agreed to it.

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#296704 - 08/06/08 08:14 AM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: Father Anthony]
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FATHER ANTHONY:

Father bless!!

Maybe that's a good thing. It means that the Lord's Holy Church is coming together for the greater Glory of God. The multiple jurisdictions that you and yor brethren have had to endure in North America can't have helped your witness to the Truth you have received.

Many years to all the members of the GOA as they come together with their brethren.

In Christ,

BOB

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#296731 - 08/06/08 03:47 PM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: theophan]
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The Greek Archdiocese has other parishes that are also old calendar, so this transfer should be no problem.

That is also true for the OCA, where here in Southern California there are at least two parishes that hold services following the old calendar.


Edited by Elizabeth Maria (08/06/08 03:51 PM)

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#296840 - 08/07/08 09:14 PM Re: Another Orthodox jurisdiction bites the dust [Re: Elizabeth Maria]
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The posting that noted Ben Lomond is an important one on this thread. This jurisdiction came from the Antiochian Archdiocese (and indeed most Palestinian and Jordanian Orthodox laity and clergy belong to the AOCA.) One reason is that the Arabic speaking laity and clergy do not have to answer to a Greek hierarchy (as in Jerusalem).

Still, one less jurisdiction is addition by subtraction. I hope and prayer that there will be some serious merger talks among jurisdictions that will lead to fruition.

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