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#315825 - 03/18/09 04:37 PM Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes
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Apostolic Administrator of Mukachiv Greek Catholic Eparchy Becomes Citizen of Ukraine
17.03.2009, [10:55] // Church-state relations //

KHUST— On 14 March 2009, Ukrainian President Victor Yushchenko attended a mass in honour of the heroes of Carpathian Ukraine. The service, which marked the 70th anniversary of the proclamation of the Carpathian Ukraine, took place at the Greek Catholic Cathedral of the Holy Ascension in Khust (Transcarpathian Region). President Yushchenko presented several awards as well as a Ukrainian passport to the Apostolic Administrator of the Mukachiv Greek Catholic Eparchy, Milan Shashik.

By The Way: For those of you who actually missed the March 15, 1939 declaration of a Carpatho-Ukrainian nation by the Greek Catholic Ruthenian Monsignor Avgustin Voloshyn I have included some of the film clips I found in my attic of the event. Happy 70th Anniversary of this great event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKMxT8Jw9uA&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxSa4lel1wQ&feature=channel_page


I.F.


Edited by Jean Francois (03/18/09 04:37 PM)

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#315830 - 03/18/09 05:25 PM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Jean Francois]
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There was an article about Ruthenia in The Economist this week: "Ruthenia rises again: A glimpse of daylight" (March 12th, 2009).


Edited by Latin Catholic (03/18/09 05:25 PM)

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#315872 - 03/19/09 09:16 AM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Latin Catholic]
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Thanks. I think I enjoyed reading the 2 pages of "Reader's Comments" even more than the article.

Also I believe Andy Warhol spoke to his mother in her native tongue. She lived with him in New York until her death.

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#315940 - 03/19/09 08:50 PM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Miller]
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It appears that there even an icon dedicated to the Ruthenian Monsignor in The Church of the Great Martyr St-Goero the Victorious in Edmonton, Alberta.

http://www.edmontoneparchy.com/images/icons/St.%20George%20Parish/Ch%206.JPG

I.F.

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#316462 - 03/24/09 10:18 PM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Jean Francois]
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Here are some additional photos from the Ukrainian President's website:

http://www.president.gov.ua/en/gallery/1251.html#19465

It would have been great had they had captions with the pictures.

I.F.

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#316524 - 03/25/09 06:43 PM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Jean Francois]
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#316533 - 03/25/09 09:17 PM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Ung-Certez]
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Ung-Certez,

I'm not sure what these videos have to do with Greek Catholic Bishop Milan of Mukachiv celebrating Carpatho-Ukrainian heroes but in regard to the 4th video - Дякую! Дуже зворушлива весільна пісня. Чудове виконання. Дивився на фотографії і згадував свою покійну бабусю-лемкиню. Again, thank you.

Here are some additional photos from the Greek Catholic Eparchy of Mukachiv in Ukraine:

http://www.mgce.uz.ua/photogallery.php?album_key=131

I.F.






Edited by Jean Francois (03/25/09 09:20 PM)

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#316538 - 03/25/09 10:49 PM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Jean Francois]
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[quote=Jean Francois]Ung-Certez,

I'm not sure what these videos have to do with Greek Catholic Bishop Milan of Mukachiv celebrating Carpatho-Ukrainian heroes but in regard to the 4th video - Дякую! Дуже зворушлива весільна пісня. Чудове виконання. Дивився на фотографії і згадував свою покійну бабусю-лемкиню. Again, thank you.

Here are some additional photos from the Greek Catholic Eparchy of Mukachiv in Ukraine:

http://www.mgce.uz.ua/photogallery.php?album_key=131

I.F.


[/quote]

The point being not everyone from Carpatho-Rus' identifies themselve as Ukrainian, no matter what the Uzhorod-Mukachevo Greek Catholic Eparchy designates. Isn't Bishop Shashik a Slovak and not a Ukrainian?

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#321724 - 05/10/09 07:15 PM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Charles N. Bransom]
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Bishop Milan Šašik CM has been apostolic administrator "ad nutum Sanctae Sedis" of the eparchy of Mukacheve for about six years now. How is it working out? I think I read somewhere on the forum that he recently received Ukrainian citizenship. Isn't it time soon that Mukacheve gets a proper eparchial bishop and not "just" an apostolic administrator?


Edited by Father Anthony (05/11/09 06:59 PM)
Edit Reason: The following posts are joined to this thread, since the original Church News thread is over 7 years old.

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#321753 - 05/11/09 02:23 AM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Latin Catholic]
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The situation is decidedly odd - particularly since after one year such an Administrator automatically has all the authority of the Ruling Bishop.

But if Bishop Milan has indeed received Ukrainian citizenship, that should clear his path.

Fr. Serge

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#321762 - 05/11/09 04:47 AM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Fr Serge Keleher]
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I found the post I referred to. It says Bishop Milan received a Ukrainian passport. I wonder if that is the same as citizenship?

http://www.byzcath.org/forums/ubbthreads...eleb#Post315825

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#321818 - 05/11/09 03:26 PM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Ung-Certez]
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Now that he has a Ukrainian passport he can identify himself as a 'Ukrainain' of Slovak ancestry. It just goes to show you, everyone wants to be Ukrainian.

I.F.


Edited by Jean Francois (05/11/09 03:27 PM)

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#321819 - 05/11/09 03:29 PM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Jean Francois]
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Originally Posted By: Jean Francois
Now that he has a Ukrainian passport he can identify himself as a 'Ukrainain' of Slovak ancestry. It just goes to show you, everyone wants to be Ukrainian.

I.F.


LOL smile

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#321833 - 05/11/09 05:42 PM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: Latin Catholic]
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Originally Posted By: Latin Catholic
I found the post I referred to. It says Bishop Milan received a Ukrainian passport. I wonder if that is the same as citizenship?


Not always. Many European nations will issue non-citizens passports. The US Laws forbid issuing passports to non-citizens except in special cases, and forbid US citizens from carrying foreign passports, so it often seems odd.

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#321882 - 05/12/09 02:59 AM Re: Bishop Milan of Mukachiv Celebrates Carpatho-Ukrainian Heroes [Re: aramis]
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Under certain circumstances, the United States does permit dual citizenship. Ukraine does not, partly to avoid the possibility of a substantial number of Poles seeking to claim property in Ukraine.

Fr. Serge

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