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#320008 - 04/25/09 10:26 PM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Pavel Ivanovich]
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#320009 - 04/25/09 10:42 PM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Two Lungs]
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Thank you for these butiful photos. smile


Edited by Altar Server (04/25/09 10:42 PM)
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#320498 - 05/01/09 07:44 AM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Fr Serge Keleher]
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great photos of the late Pope !

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#320514 - 05/01/09 05:31 PM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Mateusz]
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sory for the last post beautiful

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#320524 - 05/01/09 07:47 PM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Altar Server]
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Wonderful to see this. I pray that we will have photos of Benedict XVI also to add to the collections.

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#320571 - 05/02/09 12:41 PM Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L
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Pope will be in Jordan soon in May !!!

Please pray i will be able to go there... Thank you:)

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#320574 - 05/02/09 01:27 PM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Lathe]
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If you manage to go - please take a camera with you and let us see your piccies smile

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#320637 - 05/03/09 04:18 AM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Our Lady's slave]
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sure sure i will :D:D:D

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#320666 - 05/03/09 11:44 AM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Lathe]
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I know he has never left us, it seems like we just saw him yesterday with all his vim, vigor, and vitality. No matter the age, he was always young at heart. Thanks JPII

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#320668 - 05/03/09 12:02 PM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Pani Rose]
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These were nice photos. Thank you.

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#320857 - 05/04/09 07:16 PM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Alice]
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The Vatican has released the Missal for the Holy Father's visit to the Holy Land. "Evening Prayer" at the Melkite Cathedral is on page 29 of the PDF:

http://www.vatican.va/news_services/liturgy/libretti/2009/MessaleTerraSanta.pdf

I noticed quite a few liberties were taken with the structure and content of this Vespers service (although I wonder if some of the awkwardness is due to poor English translations and the fact that I don't read Arabic smile ).

Dave


Edited by Chtec (05/04/09 07:19 PM)
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#320908 - 05/05/09 01:43 AM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Two Lungs]
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Originally Posted By: Two Lungs
Here are photos of one Divine Liturgy celebrated by Pope John Paul II.

http://easterncatholichymns.homestead.com/popemass.html

http://easterncatholichymns.homestead.com/popemass2.html



Here is another one from 1991 when His Holiness celebrated an outdoor Divine Liturgy at Mariapocs in Hungary.



It is taken from an article on the Marian shrine at Mariapocs from the CNEWA website: http://www.cnewa.org/mag-article-bodypg-us.aspx?articleID=770

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#320911 - 05/05/09 03:11 AM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Chtec]
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Chtec
Thanks for that link

On a very quick look a few things have sort of jumped out at me smile

Normally at 'big' Papal Masses in Rome [ Easter etc ] a 'Greek' Deacon will also Chant the Gospel - does anyone know if it is happening here ? There is a hint of it at one place

Page 134 - Gethsemane

Quote:
Diaconus:
Be attentive.


Those words are not usually said [ as far as I can remember ] at the start of the Gosple Reading - even when read by a Deacon - so is this an Eastern Deacon ?

There is also the Introduction to the Gospel in the Celebration in Bethlehem [page 171]
Quote:
Episcopus syriacus:
Peace be with you.
C. And also with you.
c The Holy Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, message
of life according to Saint Luke who proclaims life and
redemption to the word. 2:1-14
C. Blessed is the one who came and is to come.Glory
to the Father, who sent him and may his mercy be
with us for ever.
D. In the time of our Lord, God and Saviour Jesus
Christ, the Word of life, born of the holy Virgin Mary,
these things happened.
C. We believe and confess.


There is also a hint of this at the Eucharistic Celebration in Nazareth - page 210
Quote:
Diaconus:
Wisdom, let us stand to hear the Holy Gospel.


Any comments anyone ?

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#320920 - 05/05/09 05:34 AM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Our Lady's slave]
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I think that I shall be better off remaining at home! That Vesperal pastiche is downright offensive.

Fr. Serge

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#320924 - 05/05/09 06:30 AM Re: Re: Pope Benedict XVI to lead Vespers in Melkite church in Holy L [Re: Fr Serge Keleher]
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OK - now that's two commenting unfavourably on the Vespers frown

Since I will openly confess that I can't really remember the last time I was at Vespers [ not ever served in Edinburgh to my knowledge frown frown ] and then it was in Greek and I was spectacularly 'lost ' language wise, would someone please explain how this version is at odds ?

Is this starting to approach the "I'll do it MY way " practice again ? frown

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