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#32410 - 06/01/06 09:07 PM Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
Deacon Robert Behrens Offline
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Taken From Catholic World News Website

This is a serious problem. I pulled this off of the Catholic World News website. I can't believe what I just read.

Dn. Robert

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#32411 - 06/01/06 09:11 PM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
Deacon Robert Behrens Offline
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My mistake-that should read Dallas, Texas.

Dn. Robert

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#32412 - 06/01/06 09:39 PM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
Carson Daniel Offline
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One reason I left Methodism was their "accepting" ways toward sodomy. Here it is again. I guess one can run but they can't hide.

CDL

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#32413 - 06/01/06 10:43 PM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
Deacon Robert Behrens Offline
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Keep in mind that we are talking here about "AMChurch", as some commentators refer to it. The Roman Catholic Church in the U.S. has an orthodox element, and what I would consider to be an apostate element (and I don't think the latter really belong to the Church). The latter element is in communion with the universal Church in name only. There has been some talk , by dissidents, of a break with Rome, allowing for the creation of a church which ordains women and blesses same sex marriages. I wish that, if they have no intent to conform themselves to the truth, that they would go that route, already. As one old priest said to me once, "at least Luther had the decency to leave".

Dn. Robert

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#32414 - 06/01/06 10:55 PM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
Carole Offline
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I will pray for this man that the graces he has received from the Holy Spirit through the Sacraments create in him a true conversion of heart that is more than superficial.

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#32415 - 06/01/06 11:08 PM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
ebed melech Offline
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You could certainly pray to St. Genesius the Martyr and patron of actors. He was a Roman pagan engaged in "mock rites" against the Christians in front of large crowds when the grace of the Holy Spirit came over him in his re-enactment of Holy Baptism and he experienced a radical conversion. The audience cheered him on as he began preach - until they realized that he was serious! Soon the accolades and the laughter of the crowds turned to rage. St. Genesius was asked to renounce his faith, which he refused to do, and died a martyr...baptized in his own blood.

In college I helped some friends form the St. Genesius Society for Catholic actors. He may be a good patron for this poor deluded individual.

God bless,

Gordo

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#32416 - 06/01/06 11:11 PM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
Pavel Ivanovich Offline
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The text might look 'clever' to the newspaper but it is really quiet a sad piece of text to me. The sort of fake bravado someone might put up to disuise an otherwise sad life of a very unhappy person. As being a Christian is a process lets pray the process to seeking the will of God for him has started and that in time he will drop this fake front and be a happier person.

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#32417 - 06/01/06 11:46 PM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
Logos - Alexis Offline
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I'll eat my words if the local bishop is punished for such an affront to Our Lord.

The saddest thing to me is not that this happens, but that it is allowed to happen.

Logos Teen

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#32418 - 06/02/06 12:03 AM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
ebed melech Offline
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I can recall a story from Alice von Hildebrandt about her husband, the philosopher, Dietrich.

Dietrich was convinced that he wanted to become a Catholic, so he approached a local priest and expresed his desire to enter. the priest asked him, "Do you accept all of the teachings of the Catholic faith?" Dietrich, who was honest, admitted that he did not believe the teaching about artifical contraception. The priest told him that until he embraced the full teaching of Catholicism - including matters pertaining to morals, the priest could not in good conscience receive him as a Catholic. Dietrich was crushed, but set about the process of learning the reasons for the teaching of the Catholic Church in this matter and became convinced of the truth of it. he approached the priest and was received.

This was evidently a definitive moment in the life and Catholic discipleship of Dietrich von Hildebrandt who became something of a prophetic voice both in Hitler's Germany and beyond.

If the pastor in Fort Worth knew about his lack of full repentance (which Holy Baptism both effects and seals) he is guilty of negligence and will have to give an account for the man's eternal soul.

As one priest told me in confession many years ago, "Every personal encounter is an eternal responsibility."

Back to my crow...

Gordo

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#32419 - 06/02/06 12:17 AM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
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It’s not surprising that the Catholic Church attracts so many gay men; it’s more shocking that the whole institution isn’t pinker than a Euless trailer park flamingo.
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But Catholic attitudes are never easy to predict. Spain, one of the most Catholic countries on the planet, has also become one of the handful to legalize gay marriage. Heavily Catholic Massachusetts was the first U.S. state to approve homo nuptials. Some think Ireland will soon join the list. It’s just one of those cool Catholic paradoxes.
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#32420 - 06/02/06 12:19 AM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
Pavel Ivanovich Offline
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I thought he was just the sort that Jesus came to save and was going to fit in well with all the other sinners in the Church (collective of sinners). He now has the rest of his life to work on his life just like the rest of us and none of us knows when that will be. Pray for him as you request the prayers of others for yourself.

Behind all this bluster is one very sad and lonely human being who is talking rubbish. It gets attention saying this stuff. Probably has very low self esteme as well.

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#32421 - 06/02/06 12:39 AM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
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This whole situation makes me so very sad. I just today spoke with my brother in law J who recounted a conversation with another brother in law who is the typical thoughtless liberal type who never met a soft headed cliche he didn't like and wouldn't use. "Who would choose," opined T, "to be a homosexual when they are so despised by the majority of people?" Without missing a beat J said, "For sex without any responsibility or rejection. The chicken hawk can always find a chicken. Women can be tricky. But if all one is looking for is sex...it's easy." My cliche ridden BIL had never thought of that. I run into people all the time, and so have you all, who figure that sexual intercourse is all about lust. Why pay for or make a commitment over something like lust? I think that is why there are so many shack up relationships. It's probably why there are so many marital splits.

We desparately need the insights from Pope JPII's Theology of the Body.

CDL

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#32422 - 06/02/06 12:42 AM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
Carson Daniel Offline
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Originally posted by Rilian:
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It’s not surprising that the Catholic Church attracts so many gay men; it’s more shocking that the whole institution isn’t pinker than a Euless trailer park flamingo.
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But Catholic attitudes are never easy to predict. Spain, one of the most Catholic countries on the planet, has also become one of the handful to legalize gay marriage. Heavily Catholic Massachusetts was the first U.S. state to approve homo nuptials. Some think Ireland will soon join the list. It’s just one of those cool Catholic paradoxes.
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He does have a point, sad to say.

CDL

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#32423 - 06/02/06 01:27 AM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
Ray S. Offline
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Rilian,

Do you have a hard time believing those quotes?

You might want to read: Goodbye, Good Men

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#32424 - 06/02/06 02:01 AM Re: Unrepentant Practicing Homosexual Received Into Catholic Church In Fort Worth, Texas
AMM Offline
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I will look at the book. I always knew there was an issue with this, but I guess I didn't realize the extent. Provided those quotes and what is behind them are true.

I wonder how widespread this is. The closest Eastern Catholic Church to me, St. Michael's in Mont Clare, PA, I was told by someone had some problems not too long ago and now has an interim priest.

Andrew

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