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#337467 - 11/17/09 08:29 AM Re: Visit of Patriarch Filaret in the news [Re: Father Borislav]
Father Borislav Offline
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Registered: 01/01/07
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When I said the "only two Orthodox Priests" I of course meant the only two Ukrainian Orthodox Priests who serve in a Canonical Ukrainian jurisdiction.

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#337477 - 11/17/09 10:21 AM Re: Visit of Patriarch Filaret in the news [Re: Father Borislav]
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Registered: 10/09/09
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Deacon Borislav,

I will disagree with your comment that the “majority” of the parish left with father Bogdan. There are far more members of the parish that stayed than left. Of course father Bogdan said that most left with him but truth be told, Father Bogdan is lying. I’ll be honest, previously my wife and I had been wavering whether or not to leave our parish and join St. Andrew’s but I will say after having read your posts the past few weeks in this forum and after having been to St. Andrews the past few weeks, you have made my decision quite easy. I sense a great deal of anger and hostility from you towards the topic. Live and let live. If as a Ukrainian, you would rather be under the Greeks than the Ukrainians, than god bless you. There is nothing wrong with the EP. However, to say that St. Andrew’s was poached from the EP is WRONG. The problem here is that the UOCUSA left the Ukrainian church in 1995 in secret after Archbishop Antony lost a bid to become Patriarch of Ukraine. The bishops do not own the parishes. The parish owns the parish. This is why appeal after appeal by Archbishop Antony has failed in Clifton. When St. Andrew’s rejoined the mother church, yes some parishioners left with Father Bogdan. Quite honestly the whole situation is horrible and sickening to me a Christian. You Deacon Borislav, may be a devout Orthodox Christian, but your comments and the “he said, she said” are like a child on a playground whose parents tell him that the world is flat whereas more children tell you the world is round. “Its not canonical, its not canonical, what a joke. UOCUSA bishops up to 1995 weren’t “canonical” guess that means every child that was baptized by a UOCUSA priest prior to 1995 is going to hell since it was a non canonical baptism. I guess all the Protestants are going to hell to since they are “not canonical” Although I am not a protestant, just because UOCUSA is canonical does not make it right. Bound Brook was wrong in what they did, more parishes are looking to leave UOCUSA, I have heard another parish in Philadelphia has joined the KP. I have also heard parishes in San Francisco and Detroit are looking to join as well.

In the words of my neice, Deacon Borislav, don’t be a “hater”.

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#337495 - 11/17/09 02:27 PM Re: Visit of Patriarch Filaret in the news [Re: Bohdan]
Irish Melkite Offline
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Thanks to all who participated in the thread. The increasingly rancorous tenor of comments from both sides, and that those are starting to verge dangerously toward the personal, suggest that that the time has come for it to be closed.

Many years,

Neil
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"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."

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