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#345101 - 03/12/10 08:37 AM Church Fathers on Talkativeness
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Talkativeness is the throne of vainglory, on which it loves to show itself and make a display.

Talkativeness is a sign of ignorance, a door to slander, an inducement to jesting, a servant to
falsehood, the ruin of compunction, a creator and summoner of despondency, a precursor of
sleep, the dissipation of recollection, the abolition of watchfulness, the cooling of ardor, the
darkening of prayer.

Saint John of Sinai, The Ladder of Divine Ascent, Step 11, # 2, p. 92.

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#345102 - 03/12/10 09:17 AM Re: Church Fathers on Talkativeness [Re: Alice]
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when I graduated from high school, one of my great-aunts gave me a hand-embroidered sampler with the words: "Never miss a chance to shut up".
At the time I was a bit miffed and perplexed but now I get it.

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#345111 - 03/12/10 10:12 AM Re: Church Fathers on Talkativeness [Re: sielos ilgesys]
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Originally Posted By: sielos ilgesys
when I graduated from high school, one of my great-aunts gave me a hand-embroidered sampler with the words: "Never miss a chance to shut up".


...I *LOVE* it!!!

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#345132 - 03/12/10 05:10 PM Re: Church Fathers on Talkativeness [Re: Alice]
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It is for those reasons that the Church has seen fit to pray Psalm 141(0) every day in her liturgy of evening prayer:

"Set a watch before my mouth, O Lord, and guard the door of my lips."

Those verses are a fixed piece in Lutheran Vespers, all days of the year except Triduum.

In this digital age, we would do well to pray that a watch be set before our fingers hit the "send" or "submit" or "post" buttons!


Edited by Thomas the Seeker (03/12/10 05:12 PM)
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#348320 - 05/23/10 08:15 PM Re: Church Fathers on Talkativeness [Re: Alice]
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Amazing! I am especially intrigued by talkativeness being the "Summoner of despondency"--something I have never thought of. Thank you so much for posting this!

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#351188 - 08/13/10 01:32 PM Re: Church Fathers on Talkativeness [Re: 4HisChurch]
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My mother used to say: "Silence is golden." I am past her age (when she died) now and the older I get the more I see wisdom in that saying.

I also appreciate: "For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: ...a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;..." (Ecclesiastes 3: 1, 7b, RSV)

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