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#345199 - 03/14/10 03:44 AM Re: RC vs. EO [Re: Otsheylnik]
Hieromonk Ambrose Offline
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Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 1209
Loc: New Zealand
Originally Posted By: Otsheylnik
Sadly when I became Orthodox after being Catholic, one Catholic priest told me that "Orthodoxy is an ossified, archaeological jurisdiction with no theological progress since the schism".


Adolf von Harnack:

"The Orthodox Church is in her entire structure alien
to the Gospel and a perversion of the Christian religion,
its reduction to the level of pagan antiquity."


I have always treasured that quote and taken a great pride in it, perhaps even a
sinful pride... mea culpa! But are we not doing something right if Protestant theologians
speak of us so highly :-)

Also from von Harnack:

"No fresh theological thought has agitated the East since the 8th century."

He saw it as a reproach. The Orthodox see it as a compliment.

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#345225 - 03/14/10 07:46 PM Re: RC vs. EO [Re: Hieromonk Ambrose]
Thomas the Seeker Offline
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Registered: 04/24/09
Posts: 357
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: Hieromonk Ambrose


Also from von Harnack:

"No fresh theological thought has agitated the East since the 8th century."

He saw it as a reproach. The Orthodox see it as a compliment.




Frankly the West would be the better if no fresh theological thought had developed after the Confession of Augsburg (A.D. 1530).

Think of it: to be spared Zwingli, "the mother of sects"!


Edited by Thomas the Seeker (03/14/10 07:48 PM)
Edit Reason: specificity

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#345250 - 03/15/10 12:35 AM Re: RC vs. EO [Re: Thomas the Seeker]
bkovacs Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 172
Loc: Eastern Pennsylvania
And look where the fresh thoughts got them. Protestantism with LGBT clergy and women priests. Thank God the East didn't follow suit.

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#346012 - 03/28/10 05:37 PM Re: RC vs. EO [Re: bkovacs]
Alice Offline

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Registered: 01/12/03
Posts: 9453
Loc: New York
If only there was more knowledge about the East...
A young RC hairdresser asked me yesterday *IF* the Greek Orthodox celebrated Palm Sunday...(HUH?!?!)

Ah..yes we do.

She also asked me how long our services were because she heard they were very, very long. I said the DL is about an hour and a half...for the response of: "oh my, that is sooo long".

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#346015 - 03/28/10 09:35 PM Re: RC vs. EO [Re: Alice]
theophan Offline
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Quote:
I said the DL is about an hour and a half...for the response of: "oh my, that is sooo long".


Alice:

Depends on what flavor of Protestantism one selects. There is a Pentecostal church in my area that has a Sunday morning service running from 3 to 3 1/2 hours and no one thinks it's too long. Had a funeral there once that was all afternoon and had friends of the family quietly getting up and leaving after about two hours; one of my colleagues stayed for the whole thing and they sang all the verses of over 15 hymns.

Bob

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#346024 - 03/29/10 02:06 AM Re: RC vs. EO [Re: Alice]
Hieromonk Ambrose Offline
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Registered: 03/22/06
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Loc: New Zealand
Originally Posted By: Alice
If only there was more knowledge about the East...
A young RC hairdresser asked me yesterday *IF* the Greek Orthodox celebrated Palm Sunday...(HUH?!?!)



Photos for her/him to see...

The Seattle Times web site has a photo gallery of the Palm Sunday service today at St. Nicholas Russian Orthodox Cathedral (ROCOR)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011468440/

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#346025 - 03/29/10 02:52 AM Re: RC vs. EO [Re: Hieromonk Ambrose]
Irish Melkite Offline

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Registered: 10/27/03
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Loc: Massachusetts
Bless, Father Ambrose,

Beautiful!!

Many years,

Neil
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