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#345506 - 03/18/10 10:32 AM
Re: "Rome celebrates his first Mass in Arabic"
[Re: Philippe Gebara]
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Sounds like it's not the first Arabic "mass" in "Rome", but the 1st one in that temple, viz.: Santa Maria in Comedin.
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#345512 - 03/18/10 01:18 PM
Re: "Rome celebrates his first Mass in Arabic"
[Re: Philippe Gebara]
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Philippe,
I think perhaps the explanation is that this is the beginning of Sta. Maria in Cosmedin having regularly-scheduled Liturgies in Arabic. They've undoubtedly had Liturgies there in Arabic before, but it appears they were not on a regualr basis.
It is also likely that the reporter did not get much background information on this event, so was unable to appreciate its significance.
Peace, Deacon Richard
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#345513 - 03/18/10 01:28 PM
Re: "Rome celebrates his first Mass in Arabic"
[Re: Epiphanius]
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Another piece (ANSAmed) - ROME - Starting tomorrow, one of the most beautiful Paleochristian churches in Rome, Santa Maria in Cosmedin, will host Eucharistic celebrations in Arabic, which will become a weekly religious appointment for Middle Eastern worshippers. There are many Arabic-speaking Christians - especially Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese - who live and work in Rome, even on Sunday, Christian news agency MISNA explains. ''For them,'' said Archimandrite Mtanius Hadad - rector of the basilica, which for centuries has been entrusted to the Melkite Greek Catholic Church -, ''we decided to set one day a week, Thursday, to take part in a mass in their native language, but we are extending an invitation to all Romans to come and listen to the celebration with the Byzantine liturgy in Arabic.'' ''Eastern Catholic Churches, with their liturgical and linguistic heritage passed down through the centuries, remind everyone that Christianity arrived from the Middle East, and they can offer a richness both in ecumenical, cultural and inter-religious dialogue,'' Monsignor Hadad added. This eastern community has run the church for years, with one of the most famous symbols in Rome, the 'Bocca della Verita'', kept in the church's portico. The world famous face also inspired the name of the new cultural centre set up recently by religious and secular Melkites at the church, with courses in Arabic, iconography Byzantine choral singing. (ANSAmed). http://www.ansamed.info/en/top/ME13.XAM19245.html
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#345545 - 03/19/10 03:27 AM
Re: "Rome celebrates his first Mass in Arabic"
[Re: Irish Melkite]
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There has certainly been some sort of misunderstanding - I've been involved in Divine Liturgy in Arabic at Santa Maria in Cosmedin several times, at least twice in concelebration with Patriarch Maximos V of blessed memory.
Fr. Serge
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#345617 - 03/20/10 10:06 PM
Re: "Rome celebrates his first Mass in Arabic"
[Re: Pavel Ivanovich]
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There are some liturgies still in Italian, because I still get requests for the texts of the liturgy, Byzantine chant in Italian, etc.
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#345659 - 03/21/10 11:17 PM
Re: "Rome celebrates his first Mass in Arabic"
[Re: Matta]
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There are some liturgies still in Italian, because I still get requests for the texts of the liturgy, Byzantine chant in Italian, etc. Matta, Would these be from the Italo-Greico-Albanian community in Oz? It was my understanding, from something that either you or Collin once posted, that one of the Melkite clergy there is of Italian descent and occasionally serves their liturgy for them. Is that still the case? Many years, Neil
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#345941 - 03/27/10 01:08 PM
Re: "Rome celebrates his first Mass in Arabic"
[Re: Collin Nunis]
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Abouna Andrea is assigned to various ministries and chaplaincies (hospitals, nursing homes, etc.). He does still minister from time to time to Italian-speaking Byzantines. We have other priests who speak Italian, but I think Abouna Andrea is the only one we have in Melbourne.
The requests for Italian liturgies have come from Rome as well.
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#345969 - 03/27/10 11:00 PM
Re: "Rome celebrates his first Mass in Arabic"
[Re: Matta]
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The requests for Italian liturgies have come from Rome as well. Interesting. We do fill a lot of niches, it seems. Many years, Neil
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#346006 - 03/28/10 04:34 PM
Re: "Rome celebrates his first Mass in Arabic"
[Re: Collin Nunis]
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Collin,
Not sure if the liturgical celebrations to which Matta refers are being done according to the Grieco-Arabic (Melkite) or Greek (Italo-Albanian) usages, not that there are huge differences.
Many years,
Neil
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