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#352662 - 09/08/10 04:34 PM
Re: Why Raising of Lazarus only in John's Gospel
[Re: Gabriel]
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As I said, they used their own memories, writing styles, etc. That is natural. Yet these were illumined, strengthened, and overshadowed by the Holy Spirit. This does not happen in such events as your classroom demonstration, which is why it does not work as an analogy for the differentiations in the four-fold Gospel. Or as VCII put it: In composing the sacred books, God chose men and while employed by Him (2) they made use of their powers and abilities, so that with Him acting in them and through them, (3) they, as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things which He wanted. (4)
Therefore, since everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit,... DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON DIVINE REVELATION DEI VERBUM SOLEMNLY PROMULGATED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI ON NOVEMBER 18, 1965, §11. linkThe classroom demonstration shows that there are legitimate differing viewpoints of the same event, but there is no guarantee that all the viewpoints are necessarily correct and without error. And there can be no claim that any of the views are also "asserted by the Holy Spirit."
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#352663 - 09/08/10 04:57 PM
Re: Why Raising of Lazarus only in John's Gospel
[Re: ajk]
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All we're talking about now is the question of how much agency the authors of the Gospels employed in writing the Gospels.
The OP asked about the how/why of the differences of the versions of events. My response was an answer as to why different authors describe situations differently. This, so far, has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit or the infallibility of Scripture.
That was brought up separately by someone else, and, just as Vatican II states above, these authors "made use of their powers and abilities" - which includes their unique writing styles and descriptions - in perfect harmony with God's will via the Holy Spirit.
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#352664 - 09/08/10 05:00 PM
Re: Why Raising of Lazarus only in John's Gospel
[Re: jjp]
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You know, I don't think the eminent Doktor Professor of Theology Joseph Ratzinger would actually agree with Dei Verbum in the way that you are attempting to use it.
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#352668 - 09/08/10 06:47 PM
Re: Why Raising of Lazarus only in John's Gospel
[Re: StuartK]
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The quote of Dei Verbum is from CHAPTER III, SACRED SCRIPTURE, ITS INSPIRATION AND DIVINE INTERPRETATION. An early commentary is by Joseph Ratzinger, ‘Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation: Chapter II, The Transmission of Divine Revelation’, trans. William Glen-Doepel, in Commentary on the Documents of Vatican II , ed. Herbert Vorgrimler (New York: Herder and Herder, 1967-69). It would be very interesting to read his views as a young(er) theologian and so close to the time of the Council.
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