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#353170 - 09/17/10 08:55 PM
Re: To Russia With Nuns...Re-Evangelize Vladivostok
[Re: Yuhannon]
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People should follow their conscience, including ones that may go to the mission in Vladivostok. I don't see that anyone has questioned that. I'm not sure I see (or agree) with the rest.
The questions have been:
- Does the Orthodox Church possess the fullness of faith?; i.e. is the catholic church of Russia. The answer has been negative.
-Is competition for believers healthy and good?; the answer has been affirmative.
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#353172 - 09/17/10 09:07 PM
Re: To Russia With Nuns...Re-Evangelize Vladivostok
[Re: AMM]
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Does the Orthodox Church possess the fullness of faith?; i.e. is the catholic church of Russia. The answer has been negative . In the Balamand Statement, the Catholic Church has affirmed that the Orthodox Church has the fullness of faith, entirely sufficient to provide for the salvation of its adherents (and, for what it is worth, the Orthodox delegates affirmed the same of the Catholic Church. In the Balamand Statement, the Catholic Church also asserted that it would avoid any and all actions that might be interpreted as proselytism, but that it also had a moral obligation to provide for the pastoral needs of its members in Orthodox countries (which would include Russia). As St. Paul refused to plow in another man's field, so it would behoove the Catholic Church to live up to the spirit of the Balamand Statement, and not plow on Russian territory, but to work with and through the Orthodox Church to reach out to the unchurched.
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#353175 - 09/17/10 09:14 PM
Re: To Russia With Nuns...Re-Evangelize Vladivostok
[Re: StuartK]
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Does the Orthodox Church possess the fullness of faith?; i.e. is the catholic church of Russia. The answer has been negative . In the Balamand Statement, the Catholic Church has affirmed that the Orthodox Church has the fullness of faith, entirely sufficient to provide for the salvation of its adherents (and, for what it is worth, the Orthodox delegates affirmed the same of the Catholic Church. In the Balamand Statement, the Catholic Church also asserted that it would avoid any and all actions that might be interpreted as proselytism, but that it also had a moral obligation to provide for the pastoral needs of its members in Orthodox countries (which would include Russia). As St. Paul refused to plow in another man's field, so it would behoove the Catholic Church to live up to the spirit of the Balamand Statement, and not plow on Russian territory, but to work with and through the Orthodox Church to reach out to the unchurched. I can't find anything that I would disagree with in your post. I agree wholeheartedly.
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#353178 - 09/17/10 09:42 PM
Re: To Russia With Nuns...Re-Evangelize Vladivostok
[Re: Father Borislav]
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So I think it's clear how people are confused, because they read one thing, but see another.
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