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#361209 - 03/06/11 03:38 AM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: Lech Lecha]
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If you're keeping some fish in your diet, eating sardines will also give you some calcium, but you have to eat the bones. If you buy the "boneless, skinless" ones, you don't get the calcium. You've got to eat those little crunchy backbones that are in there! Not for the squeamish, I guess smile

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#361211 - 03/06/11 03:45 AM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: Jaya]
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Originally Posted By: Jaya
If you're keeping some fish in your diet, eating sardines will also give you some calcium, but you have to eat the bones. If you buy the "boneless, skinless" ones, you don't get the calcium. You've got to eat those little crunchy backbones that are in there! Not for the squeamish, I guess smile


If you go for the small ones, you'll never notice the backbones - let alone any crunch to them biggrin - especially if you place them between two saltines - yum.

If you are fasting from oil, you'll also want to be certain that the sardines are packed in either tomato paste or spring water, versus oil.

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#362178 - 03/24/11 11:56 PM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: Alice]
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I love the non-cook noodles too! Indeed it makes it so much easier to make a lasagna without having to cook all those lasagna noodles, which tended to stick together....


Alice:

My mother-in-law always put some olive oil into her past water that that made every kind unable to stick together, even the larger types like lasagna noodles.

Your suggestion for mixing the tofu together with the other ingredients is also fascinating. I was thinking of substituting soft tofu for ricotta cheese and your suggestion opens a door.

I had a really bad experience with "vegetable lasagna" at a restaurant last weekend. Turned out to have no vegetables and to be a nasty glop of noodles, ricotta, and a too-thick white sauce. Too rich to even finish. frown

Bob


Edited by theophan (03/24/11 11:59 PM)

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#362180 - 03/25/11 12:53 AM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: theophan]
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Putting some of the great ideas brought here by everyone, this is where I plan to start. I was looking for something that would please family members with eating issues, as well as pass muster for Great Lent.

Quote:
Vegetable Lasagna
The sauce (Two alternatives)
A. Begin with 2 quarts of low or no sodium vegetable stock
Add a half to a whole tablespoon of miso per cup of vegetable stock, and thicken with flour. The miso will give the sauce a fuller-bodied, richer flavor than stock alone.

B. "Lyutenitsa": a Bulgarian sauce that has equal parts by weight of red peppers and tomatoes. Puree both the tomatoes and the peppers with a food processor. Then cook the tomatoes down by about half, before adding the red peppers and cook a bit longer. Then you add a good amount of oil, some sugar and salt. Cook a little more to blend the flavors. Aim for a thick, “chunky” type of sauce.

3 kilos tomatoes (6.6 lbs)
3 kilos red peppers
1/4 to 1/2 cup oil
1-2 Tbs salt
2-4 Tbs sugar

Peel the tomatoes (slip into boiling water for about 30 seconds first). Put through a tomato grinder (blender? food processor?). Roast the peppers over a wood fire. Peel off skins (leave in covered bowl till cool enough to handle and the skins will slip off easily). Open peppers and remove seeds. Put through meat grinder (or suitable American appliance). Cook the tomatoes, uncovered, until volume is reduced by about half. Add the peppers and cook a while longer (always uncovered). Add the oil. When it's getting thick and gloppy, add the salt and sugar. When it's really thick, it's done. At this point, you can use it or can it. Total cooking time outside over a fire was about 1 to 1 1/4 hours. It needs to be stirred frequently at the beginning, and constantly when it's thicker. Some people add other ingredients such as roasted eggplant (also put through the meat grinder) or herbs like parsley.


Ricotta SubstitutePlace tofu blocks in a large bowl.
Add garlic, basil, parsley, and pesto.
Add salt and pepper to taste.
Mash all the ingredients together by squeezing pieces of tofu through your fingers. (Try the electric mixer on low as you would with ricotta and eggs in regular lasagna.)

Tempeh is another possibility in place of tofu: it's high protein, too, and has a similar consistency, though one that stays with the diner longer than tofu.



Lasagna noodles: need to be the type that are cooked separately; not the no-cook type: cook until soft enough to handle; just about al dente


The vegetables:
Vegetables to roast (you can use anything you like)
Egg plant, zucchini, yellow squash, carrots, green peppers, red onions, and 6 garlic cloves
Fresh or frozen spinach: frozen should be passed through boiling water to thaw and then be pressed out in a sieve.

Prepare enough carmelized vegetables to make roughly 6 to 8 cups (3 small zucchini, 3 small yellow squash, package of carrots, 4 to 6 green peppers) and at least two packages of frozen spinach.

Chop vegetables uniformly. Mince garlic. Combine half the mixed vegetables on a baking sheet pan. Drizzle with olive oil, salt and pepper. Roast for several minutes at 400 degrees. Stir. Roast for several minutes more until vegetables are soft. You can roast a little longer, if you like them to be slightly carmelized. Repeat with remaining vegetables. Set aside to cool slightly.

Scallions: rough chop for sprinkling in between one of the layers for interest


Assembly

Some sauce on the bottom of the baking dish
A layer of lasagna noodles
A layer of the carmelized vegetables
A layer of fresh or frozen spinach
Sauce
A layer of noodles, etc.
End with a topping of the remaining sauce

Note: a generous amount of grated Parmesan cheese and shredded mozzarella cheese may be placed in the layering process between the carmelized vegetables and the spinach during non-fasting periods.

Note 2: A bag of frozen peas thawed in the same way as the spinach can also be sprinkled between the layers.

Cover dish with aluminum foil and bake for one hour at 350 degrees. Let stand for 15 minutes after removing from the oven. Serve with tossed salad dressed with lemon juice and crusty bread.


Edited by theophan (03/25/11 12:56 AM)

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#362198 - 03/25/11 11:54 AM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: theophan]
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Had another thought as I was drifting off to sleep last night. I've done carmelized vegetables in a non-stick pan with some water at the outset to avoid the oil.

I've also learned to steam quarter-inch cubed vegetables but they don't carmelize.

Bob


Edited by theophan (03/25/11 11:54 AM)

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#362210 - 03/25/11 03:17 PM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: theophan]
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Originally Posted By: theophan
Putting some of the great ideas brought here by everyone, this is where I plan to start. I was looking for something that would please family members with eating issues, as well as pass muster for Great Lent.

Quote:
Vegetable Lasagna
The sauce (Two alternatives)
A. Begin with 2 quarts of low or no sodium vegetable stock
Add a half to a whole tablespoon of miso per cup of vegetable stock, and thicken with flour. The miso will give the sauce a fuller-bodied, richer flavor than stock alone.

B. "Lyutenitsa": a Bulgarian sauce that has equal parts by weight of red peppers and tomatoes. Puree both the tomatoes and the peppers with a food processor. Then cook the tomatoes down by about half, before adding the red peppers and cook a bit longer. Then you add a good amount of oil, some sugar and salt. Cook a little more to blend the flavors. Aim for a thick, “chunky” type of sauce.

3 kilos tomatoes (6.6 lbs)
3 kilos red peppers
1/4 to 1/2 cup oil
1-2 Tbs salt
2-4 Tbs sugar

Peel the tomatoes (slip into boiling water for about 30 seconds first). Put through a tomato grinder (blender? food processor?). Roast the peppers over a wood fire. Peel off skins (leave in covered bowl till cool enough to handle and the skins will slip off easily). Open peppers and remove seeds. Put through meat grinder (or suitable American appliance). Cook the tomatoes, uncovered, until volume is reduced by about half. Add the peppers and cook a while longer (always uncovered). Add the oil. When it's getting thick and gloppy, add the salt and sugar. When it's really thick, it's done. At this point, you can use it or can it. Total cooking time outside over a fire was about 1 to 1 1/4 hours. It needs to be stirred frequently at the beginning, and constantly when it's thicker. Some people add other ingredients such as roasted eggplant (also put through the meat grinder) or herbs like parsley.


Ricotta SubstitutePlace tofu blocks in a large bowl.
Add garlic, basil, parsley, and pesto.
Add salt and pepper to taste.
Mash all the ingredients together by squeezing pieces of tofu through your fingers. (Try the electric mixer on low as you would with ricotta and eggs in regular lasagna.)

Tempeh is another possibility in place of tofu: it's high protein, too, and has a similar consistency, though one that stays with the diner longer than tofu.



Lasagna noodles: need to be the type that are cooked separately; not the no-cook type: cook until soft enough to handle; just about al dente


The vegetables:
Vegetables to roast (you can use anything you like)
Egg plant, zucchini, yellow squash, carrots, green peppers, red onions, and 6 garlic cloves
Fresh or frozen spinach: frozen should be passed through boiling water to thaw and then be pressed out in a sieve.

Prepare enough carmelized vegetables to make roughly 6 to 8 cups (3 small zucchini, 3 small yellow squash, package of carrots, 4 to 6 green peppers) and at least two packages of frozen spinach.

Chop vegetables uniformly. Mince garlic. Combine half the mixed vegetables on a baking sheet pan. Drizzle with olive oil, salt and pepper. Roast for several minutes at 400 degrees. Stir. Roast for several minutes more until vegetables are soft. You can roast a little longer, if you like them to be slightly carmelized. Repeat with remaining vegetables. Set aside to cool slightly.

Scallions: rough chop for sprinkling in between one of the layers for interest


Assembly

Some sauce on the bottom of the baking dish
A layer of lasagna noodles
A layer of the carmelized vegetables
A layer of fresh or frozen spinach
Sauce
A layer of noodles, etc.
End with a topping of the remaining sauce

Note: a generous amount of grated Parmesan cheese and shredded mozzarella cheese may be placed in the layering process between the carmelized vegetables and the spinach during non-fasting periods.

Note 2: A bag of frozen peas thawed in the same way as the spinach can also be sprinkled between the layers.

Cover dish with aluminum foil and bake for one hour at 350 degrees. Let stand for 15 minutes after removing from the oven. Serve with tossed salad dressed with lemon juice and crusty bread.


Probably, I should have said "one tsp to one tbs per cup" on the miso. As I've gotten older, I'm finding I now use less per cup of stock than I used to. If you're not familiar with miso, probably a good idea to start with less, and taste it. You can always add more.

Also, the tempeh can substitute for tofu protein-wise, but the texture is not the same. Tofu is soft and light, with a high water content. Tempeh is dense.

Too bad there's no way to send us samples of your finished product via the forum!

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#362211 - 03/25/11 03:51 PM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: Jaya]
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JAYA:

Being that there are 3 tsp in one tbsp. starting with half a tbsp isn't so much over a tsp.

I've been wondering about a recipe that would work with two family members who have either health-related issues or food-related issues. So when I began to think along these lines, I thought that a Lenten dish wold be the way to go: meat and dairy free, as well as tomato free.

Last evening, my wife prepared us a dish of carmelized vegetables and fresh cherry tomatoes tossed with whole wheat linguini. Not a bad starter for doing the whole lasagna thing and it only took about 30 minutes.

Bob

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#362213 - 03/25/11 04:07 PM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: theophan]
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Originally Posted By: theophan
JAYA:

Being that there are 3 tsp in one tbsp. starting with half a tbsp isn't so much over a tsp.
Bob


Yes, true. I was just worried you might start with a tbs/cup, not like it, and ruin your whole dish smile

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#362215 - 03/25/11 04:37 PM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: Jaya]
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Jaya:

No. I like to watch a sauce thicken gradually so it doesn't become like pudding or glue. laugh

I'm thinking of the first try being in a small baking dish that I have that would yield about 4 servings. The recipe I posted is for a very large ceramic baking dish that I use for regular lasagna and it usually yields enough for about 8 people who are starving when they come to the table. laugh

Bob


Edited by theophan (03/25/11 04:40 PM)

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#363282 - 04/19/11 01:01 PM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: theophan]
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Dear BOB,

I just saw this today on a Greek newspaper site (in English)..it was under the heading 'Lenten food doesn't have to be boring'..

I thought you would definitely be interested:

Crab lasagna

Ingredients (serves 6)
18 lasagna sheets
3 cans of crabmeat
1 tbsp olive oil
For the tomato sauce:
4 tbsp olive oil
1 medium-sized onion, peeled and chopped
2 leeks (white part only), sliced in fine rounds
300 gr white mushrooms, sliced
500 gr canned whole tomatoes, chopped, in their juice
1 tsp oregano
1/2 tsp sugar
Salt and pepper

Lenten bechamel sauce:

4 tbsp olive oil
4 tbsp all-purpose flour
750 ml water
1/2 tsp oregano
Salt and pepper

Tomato sauce:

Saute the onion and leeks in the olive oil until soft. Add the mushrooms until browned.
Add the tomatoes, sugar, oregano and 1 cup of water. Season and cook over medium heat for 10 minutes until the mixture thickens.
Remove from the stove, allow to cool and add the crab.
Preheat the oven to 180C and boil the lasagna in salted water until they are al dente.
Strain and set aside, covering the dish in plastic wrap.

Lenten bechamel:


Heat the olive oil and add the flour, mixing vigorously with a whisk. Once it is slightly golden, lower the heat and add the water, salt, pepper and oregano, continuing to whisk all the while, until the sauce thickens. Remove from the stove and cover with plastic wrap to prevent a skin forming.

Oil a 22x30 cm baking dish and place one layer of lasagna on the bottom. Spread half the tomato/crab mixture over it, then another layer of lasagna, then the rest of the sauce and a final layer of lasagna. Then spread the bechamel sauce over the top. Bake for 35 minutes. Leave to cool for 10 minutes before serving.


ekathimerini.com , Monday April 18, 2011 (23:38[u][/u]

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#363308 - 04/19/11 09:34 PM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: Alice]
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ALICE:

What a sweetheart you are!! Here I was this morning trying to eat just a little and keep my mind off food. Then you send this and it's all I've thought about all day. Oh well, your generosity in posting this is appreciated. Here I thought Lenten food had to be dry and tasteless to make one not want to eat in the first place. wink laugh laugh

Seriously, though, for some reason this Lent eating less meat has left me feeling healthier than I've felt in a long time. I'm thinking of trying to make meat a less staple item in my diet on a more regular basis.

Thank God for you and thank you for sharing this with all of us.

Bob


Edited by theophan (04/19/11 09:36 PM)

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#363309 - 04/19/11 09:47 PM Re: Vegetable lasagna [Re: theophan]
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Eke!!! Looks like the clever one (if you know who I mean) prompted me to tempt you today! Sorry! blush

However, when I saw this lasagna recipe with lots of veggies and crab, I thought of how you had been looking for such a recipe a while ago.

Since the recipe came from a Greek site today, and Greeks are in the midst of Holy Week fasting, let's just blame it on those ever food loving Greeks! LOL! wink

Alice

P.S. Not eating meat is a bit of a breeze for me, though not so much for my husband..I wish I could say the same when I abstain from dairy products; especially cheese.

Quote:
Seriously, though, for some reason this Lent eating less meat has left me feeling healthier than I've felt in a long time. I'm thinking of trying to make meat a less staple item in my diet on a more regular basis.


It is true that its absence or lessening from one's diet (atleast for a period of time/certainly not permanently) affects one's health in a positive way! (...and from all the studies, that would be not only short term, but for the long term)..My daughter and I were discussing nutrition the other day, because she is very interested in food and how it affects health, and she said that Greeks and other Orthodox are very lucky that they are forced through fasting to eat more healthfully so many days of the year. She also made a good point in how a vegan Lenten diet forces people to eat those foods that are good for them like veggies, legumes and nuts in abundance, whereas they would probably not normally do so.


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