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#362326 - 03/27/11 07:06 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: Collin Nunis]
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Since both Patriarchs were in full vestments, one assumes that both Patriarchs - Gregory of Antioch and Sviatoslav of Kyiv - concelebrated.
Fr. Serge
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#362329 - 03/27/11 07:47 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: Our Lady's slave]
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All three Hierarchs from the Ukrainian Orthodox Churches were present !! What!!!! Are you serious???!!!!  Do you mean to tell me that Metropolitan Volodymyr (UOC-MP) was present???!!! That's fantastic!!  I never would have thought that he would attend, let alone step foot into the cathedral. Where was he situated? I am very happy for the new patriarch. After having read the latest post on the Whispers in the Loggia blogsite, I am beginning to wonder if His Beatitude will eventually become His Holiness! God grant him many, many blessed years!
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#362330 - 03/27/11 07:56 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: John Schweich]
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Sorry just checked the SMS I got  my memory let me down  The SMS was All 3 Ukr 'dox hav sent delegates, incl MP !! I apologise for misleading you all . But it's still something that there was a delegate from the UOC-MP actually there.
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#362377 - 03/28/11 07:00 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: John Schweich]
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#362379 - 03/28/11 08:15 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
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It is great to see Greek Catholic patriarchs (emphasis on the "s") concelebrating. I am sorry if this goes way off topic, but now I kinda wonder how the Greek Catholic Patriarchs order the diptychs for the commemoration of patriarchs. I'm quite sure that the Pope of Rome will be the first on the list, but how about the rest of the patriarchs? Anybody has an idea how it is ordered?
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#362380 - 03/28/11 08:49 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: John Schweich]
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#362381 - 03/28/11 09:00 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: davinpa]
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There are not many Greek-Catholic Patriarchs. But the correct order is:
The Patriarch of Antioch, Alexandria, and Jerusalem;
The Patriarch of Kyiv-Halych and All Rus.
I don't remember any other Greek-Catholic Patriarchs off hand.
On Sunday, Patriarch Sviatoslav took precedence, because it was his enthronement and his Cathedral.
Father Serge
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#362383 - 03/28/11 09:24 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: Fr Serge Keleher]
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Father Serge, Am I correct to conclude that the other Eastern Catholic Patriarchs (Maronite, Syrian, Coptic, Armenian, Chaldean, and others) are not included in the dipthycs of the Greek Catholic Patriarchs?
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#362384 - 03/28/11 09:26 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: Fr Serge Keleher]
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Father Serge,
aren't you forgetting His Beatitude Lucian (Mureşan) of the Romanian Greek-Catholic Church?
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#362386 - 03/28/11 09:34 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: John Schweich]
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I just recently attempted to make an updated list of Catholic patriarchs and their equivalents. All of the following, I think, deserve to be kept in our prayers:
His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI Born 16 April 1927 Ordained Priest 29 June 1951 Consecrated Bishop 28 May 1977 Created Cardinal by Pope Paul VI 27 June 1977 Elected Pope 19 April 2005
His Beatitude Antonios Naguib Born 18 March 1935 Ordained Priest 30 October 1960 Consecrated Bishop 9 September 1977 Elected Patriarch of the Coptic Catholic Church of Alexandria 30 March 2006 Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope Benedict XVI 7 April 2006 Created Cardinal by Pope Benedict XVI 20 November 2010
His Beatitude Gregorios III Laham Born 15 December 1933 Ordained Priest 15 February 1959 Consecrated Bishop 27 November 1981 Elected Patriarch of the Melkite Greek-Catholic Church of Antioch 29 November 2000 Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope John Paul II 5 December 2000
His Beatitude Ignace Joseph III Younan Born 15 November 1944 Ordained Priest 12 September 1971 Consecrated Bishop 7 January 1996 Elected Patriarch of the Syrian Catholic Church of Antioch 20 January 2009 Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope Benedict XVI 22 January 2009
His Beatitude Béchara Boutros Raï Born 25 February 1940 Ordained Priest 3 September 1967 Consecrated Bishop 12 July 1986 Elected Patriarch of the Maronite Church of Antioch 15 March 2011 Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope Benedict XVI 24 March 2011
His Beatitude Emmanuel III Delly Born 6 October 1927 Ordained Priest 21 December 1952 Consecrated Bishop 19 April 1963 Elected Patriarch of the Chaldean Church of Babylon 3 December 2003 Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope John Paul II 3 December 2003 Created Cardinal by Pope Benedict XVI 24 November 2007
His Beatitude Nerses Bedros XIX Tarmouni Born 17 January 1940 Ordained Priest 15 August 1965 Consecreated Bishop 18 February 1990 Elected Patriarch of the Armenian Catholic Church of Cilicia 7 October 1999 Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope John Paul II 13 October 1999
His Beatitude Sviatoslav Shevchuk Born 5 May 1970 Ordained Priest 26 June 1994 Consecrated Bishop 7 April 2009 Elected Major Archbishop of Kyiv‒Halych 23 March 2011 Confirmed in offiffice by Pope Benedict XVI 25 March 2011
His Beatitude Varkey Vithayathil Born 29 May 1927 Ordained Priest 12 June 1954 Consecrated Bishop 6 January 1997 Appointed Major Archbishop of Ernakulam‒Angamaly by Pope John Paul II 23 December 1999 Created Cardinal by Pope John Paul II 21 February 2001
His Beatitude Baselios Cleemis Thottunkal Born 15 June 1959 Ordained Priest 11 June 1986 Consecrated Bishop 15 August 2001 Elected Major Archbishop of Trivandrum 8 February 2007 Confirmed in office by Pope Benedict XVI 10 February 2007
His Beatitude Lucian Mureşan Born 23 May 1931 Ordained Priest 19 December 1964 Consecrated Bishop 27 May 1990 Promoted Major Archbishop of Făgăraş şi Alba Iulia by Pope Benedict XVI 16 December 2005
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#362403 - 03/28/11 11:41 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: John Schweich]
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Is the Order of Precedence provided by Canons 59 and 60 of the CCEO inapplicable or disregarded?
Amado
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