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Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: Collin Nunis] #362326 03/27/11 07:06 PM
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Since both Patriarchs were in full vestments, one assumes that both Patriarchs - Gregory of Antioch and Sviatoslav of Kyiv - concelebrated.

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Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: Mateusz] #362327 03/27/11 07:33 PM
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Glad that a requirement for Patriarch isn't that he be fat and old. LOL

Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: Our Lady's slave] #362329 03/27/11 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Our Lady's slave
All three Hierarchs from the Ukrainian Orthodox Churches were present !!


What!!!! Are you serious???!!!! shocked Do you mean to tell me that Metropolitan Volodymyr (UOC-MP) was present???!!!

That's fantastic!! grin grin I never would have thought that he would attend, let alone step foot into the cathedral. Where was he situated?

I am very happy for the new patriarch. After having read the latest post on the Whispers in the Loggia blogsite, I am beginning to wonder if His Beatitude will eventually become His Holiness!

God grant him many, many blessed years!

Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: John Schweich] #362330 03/27/11 07:56 PM
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Sorry just checked the SMS I got frown my memory let me down frown

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All 3 Ukr 'dox hav sent delegates, incl MP !!


I apologise for misleading you all . But it's still something that there was a delegate from the UOC-MP actually there.

Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: Thymiato] #362332 03/27/11 08:21 PM
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Thanks for the video links. smile

Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: Our Lady's slave] #362376 03/28/11 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Our Lady's slave


Sorry just checked the SMS I got frown my memory let me down frown

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All 3 Ukr 'dox hav sent delegates, incl MP !!


I apologise for misleading you all . But it's still something that there was a delegate from the UOC-MP actually there.


No worries! smile

Yes, there were representatives of all three branches of the UOC.

UOC-MP: http://images.unian.net/photos/2011_03/1301276710.jpg
News item on UOC-MP site: http://orthodox.org.ua/uk/node/8879

UOC-KP represented by Patriarch Filaret: http://uaoc.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMG_6947.jpg
News item on UOC-KP site: http://www.cerkva.info/uk/news/patriarkh/1415-vitannia-ugkc.html

UOAC: http://uaoc.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMG_6848.jpg
News item on UOAC website: http://uaoc.net/2011/03/pryvit-2/ (includes photos of the enthronement)

Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: John Schweich] #362377 03/28/11 07:00 PM
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A nice article along with the text of Patriarch Sviatoslav's homily in English:

http://whispersintheloggia.blogspot.com/2011/03/holiness-united-gods-people-in-kiev-and.html

From a quick scan of Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE92m_AT6m0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Od5C3KGFpk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FInXFdios

And lastly, this one features interviews his parents and brother, who is a priest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezbgzo2h-aI


Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: ukrainiancatholic] #362379 03/28/11 08:15 PM
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It is great to see Greek Catholic patriarchs (emphasis on the "s") concelebrating.
I am sorry if this goes way off topic, but now I kinda wonder how the Greek Catholic Patriarchs order the diptychs for the commemoration of patriarchs. I'm quite sure that the Pope of Rome will be the first on the list, but how about the rest of the patriarchs? Anybody has an idea how it is ordered?

Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: John Schweich] #362380 03/28/11 08:49 PM
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Wait for it...

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My cromulent posts embiggen this forum.
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: davinpa] #362381 03/28/11 09:00 PM
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There are not many Greek-Catholic Patriarchs. But the correct order is:

The Patriarch of Antioch, Alexandria, and Jerusalem;

The Patriarch of Kyiv-Halych and All Rus.

I don't remember any other Greek-Catholic Patriarchs off hand.

On Sunday, Patriarch Sviatoslav took precedence, because it was his enthronement and his Cathedral.

Father Serge

Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: Fr Serge Keleher] #362383 03/28/11 09:24 PM
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Father Serge,
Am I correct to conclude that the other Eastern Catholic Patriarchs (Maronite, Syrian, Coptic, Armenian, Chaldean, and others) are not included in the dipthycs of the Greek Catholic Patriarchs?


Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: Fr Serge Keleher] #362384 03/28/11 09:26 PM
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Father Serge,

aren't you forgetting His Beatitude Lucian (Mureşan) of the Romanian Greek-Catholic Church?

Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: Fr Serge Keleher] #362385 03/28/11 09:30 PM
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What about His Beatitude Lucian Mureşan, Major Archbishop of the Romanian Greek Catholic Church? Wouldn't he be regarded as a patriarch?

Edit: Oops, I see Latin Catholic just posted before me.

Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: John Schweich] #362386 03/28/11 09:34 PM
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I just recently attempted to make an updated list of Catholic patriarchs and their equivalents. All of the following, I think, deserve to be kept in our prayers:

His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI
Born 16 April 1927
Ordained Priest 29 June 1951
Consecrated Bishop 28 May 1977
Created Cardinal by Pope Paul VI 27 June 1977
Elected Pope 19 April 2005

His Beatitude Antonios Naguib
Born 18 March 1935
Ordained Priest 30 October 1960
Consecrated Bishop 9 September 1977
Elected Patriarch of the Coptic Catholic Church of Alexandria 30 March 2006
Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope Benedict XVI 7 April 2006
Created Cardinal by Pope Benedict XVI 20 November 2010

His Beatitude Gregorios III Laham
Born 15 December 1933
Ordained Priest 15 February 1959
Consecrated Bishop 27 November 1981
Elected Patriarch of the Melkite Greek-Catholic Church of Antioch 29 November 2000
Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope John Paul II 5 December 2000

His Beatitude Ignace Joseph III Younan
Born 15 November 1944
Ordained Priest 12 September 1971
Consecrated Bishop 7 January 1996
Elected Patriarch of the Syrian Catholic Church of Antioch 20 January 2009
Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope Benedict XVI 22 January 2009

His Beatitude Béchara Boutros Raï
Born 25 February 1940
Ordained Priest 3 September 1967
Consecrated Bishop 12 July 1986
Elected Patriarch of the Maronite Church of Antioch 15 March 2011
Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope Benedict XVI 24 March 2011

His Beatitude Emmanuel III Delly
Born 6 October 1927
Ordained Priest 21 December 1952
Consecrated Bishop 19 April 1963
Elected Patriarch of the Chaldean Church of Babylon 3 December 2003
Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope John Paul II 3 December 2003
Created Cardinal by Pope Benedict XVI 24 November 2007

His Beatitude Nerses Bedros XIX Tarmouni
Born 17 January 1940
Ordained Priest 15 August 1965
Consecreated Bishop 18 February 1990
Elected Patriarch of the Armenian Catholic Church of Cilicia 7 October 1999
Granted ecclesiastical communion by Pope John Paul II 13 October 1999

His Beatitude Sviatoslav Shevchuk
Born 5 May 1970
Ordained Priest 26 June 1994
Consecrated Bishop 7 April 2009
Elected Major Archbishop of Kyiv‒Halych 23 March 2011
Confirmed in offiffice by Pope Benedict XVI 25 March 2011

His Beatitude Varkey Vithayathil
Born 29 May 1927
Ordained Priest 12 June 1954
Consecrated Bishop 6 January 1997
Appointed Major Archbishop of Ernakulam‒Angamaly by Pope John Paul II 23 December 1999
Created Cardinal by Pope John Paul II 21 February 2001

His Beatitude Baselios Cleemis Thottunkal
Born 15 June 1959
Ordained Priest 11 June 1986
Consecrated Bishop 15 August 2001
Elected Major Archbishop of Trivandrum 8 February 2007
Confirmed in office by Pope Benedict XVI 10 February 2007

His Beatitude Lucian Mureşan
Born 23 May 1931
Ordained Priest 19 December 1964
Consecrated Bishop 27 May 1990
Promoted Major Archbishop of Făgăraş şi Alba Iulia by Pope Benedict XVI 16 December 2005

Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected [Re: John Schweich] #362403 03/28/11 11:41 PM
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Is the Order of Precedence provided by Canons 59 and 60 of the CCEO inapplicable or disregarded?

Amado

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