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#362542 - 04/01/11 01:17 AM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: griego catolico]
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#362543 - 04/01/11 02:36 AM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
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Shouldn't it read, "Patriarch Sviatoslav receives Pope Ratzinger?
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#362546 - 04/01/11 04:22 AM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: John Schweich]
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The liturgy of enthronement is now online: http://ugcc.org.ua/1725.0.html Beautiful! It is also expected to be released on DVD.
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#362559 - 04/01/11 12:06 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: griego catolico]
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#362561 - 04/01/11 01:11 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: griego catolico]
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Thank you for posting this video. At minute 1:23, one can hear the theme of Indiana Jones being played. Here is another video from Rome Reports on the visit. Top Ten Signals the Holy Father is NOT Happy to Receive you: Number One. The band plays this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkp80PB4PkASorry, I couldn't resist! LOL
Edited by DMD (04/01/11 01:12 PM)
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#362563 - 04/01/11 02:21 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: griego catolico]
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The DVD is expected to be available by Palm Sunday, at least in Ukraine - it may take longer to get it to the West.
Presumably the time involved means that the DVD is being edited. A worth-while effort, I trust.
Father Serge
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#362577 - 04/01/11 08:26 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: Latin Catholic]
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Yet the Church makes a very definite point of regulating precedence, whether it be among patriarchs or among parish priests and their curates. Perhaps it is meant to remind everyone that "the last [shall] be first, and the first last" (Mt. 20:16). I guess I just personally don't see whether Constantinople is first and Bucharest is fourth as having much to do with that Gospel injunction. Even within the list you posted 1. Patriarchal sees: 1.1. Coptic Catholic Patriarch of Alexandria 1.2. Patriarchs of Antioch according to seniority: 1.2.1. Greek-Melkite Catholic Patriarch of Antioch (patriarch elected 2000) 1.2.2. Syrian Catholic Patriarch of Antioch (patriarch elected 2009) 1.2.3. Maronite Patriarch of Antioch (patriarch elected 2011) 1.3. Chaldean Patriarch of Babylon (patriarchs since 3rd century; Catholic patriarchs since 1553) 1.4. Armenian Catholic Patriarch of Cilicia (patriarchs since ca. 294; Catholic patriarchs since 1742) 2. Major archiepiscopal sees: 2.1. Major archbishop of Kyiv‒Halych (Lviv 1963; Kyiv 2004) 2.2. Major archbishop of Ernakulam‒Angamaly (1992) 2.3. Major archbishop of Trivandrum (10 Feb. 2005) 2.4. Major archbishop of Făgăraş şi Alba Iulia (16 Dec. 2005) I have a hard time seeing why the tiny Coptic Catholic Church is a Patriarchate and higher in precedence than a much larger church like the UGCC. It just doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, it is nice to see younger leadership in the church and I commend the synod for making such a bold move.
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#362599 - 04/02/11 05:54 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
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http://risu.org.ua/en/index/all_news/catholics/ugcc/41564/Now, I am really confused... He said a few days ago he will explain to the Pope about the patriarchate question. Now he said that he didn't talk about it at all. What's happening here???
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#362600 - 04/02/11 06:12 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: griego catolico]
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Watching these videos I was struck by the figure of His Holiness Patriarch Philaret and how genuinely pleased he seemed to be present.
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#362602 - 04/02/11 08:01 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
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It does need some editing. I hope the DVD is improved.
Philaret is probably pleased to go anywhere if he will be welcomed.
Father Serge
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#362634 - 04/03/11 03:11 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: Pavloosh]
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With or without Rome's approval, His Beatitude Sviatoslav Shevchuk is our Patriarch !!! To believe that would be to cease to be catholic. This bishop receives a great and wonderful promotion, a position of great honor, respect and responsibility, then goes to his boss to complain about his title? Vanity of vanities, says Qoheleth, vanity of vanities! All things are vanity!
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#362644 - 04/03/11 10:19 PM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: Two Lungs]
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A Patriarch (or M. A.) is not required to resign at any particular age.
Father Serge
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#362652 - 04/04/11 04:03 AM
Re: New head of Ukrainian Catholic Church Elected
[Re: Fred]
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With or without Rome's approval, His Beatitude Sviatoslav Shevchuk is our Patriarch !!! To believe that would be to cease to be catholic. Okay, well, that's just hogwash, Fred. I can play cranky strident trad with the best of 'em, but I challenge you to back up your statement with some substance before you make your decrees of excommunication.
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