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Re: American Named as Apostolic Nuncio to Ukraine [Re: Latin Catholic] #365904 06/23/11 11:41 PM
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Fr. Deacon,

x x x x.

It is important to understand that the Apostolic Nuncio is the personal representative of the Pope. Therefore the key qualification, apart from competence in canon law, is that the person who is appointed Apostolic Nuncio must have the full confidence of the Pope.


Technically, an Apostolic Nuncio or an Apostolic Delegate is not the personal representative of the Pope.

He is a permanent diplomatic representative (head of diplomatic mission) of the Holy See to a state or international organization (e.g., the Arab League), having the rank of an ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary, usually with the ecclesiastical rank of titular archbishop.

By international comity and convention, the Holy See is considered a state and is a member of the United Nations. International relations and diplomacy are conducted between and among states not between or among heads of states.

Amado


I disagree. As is well known, the Holy See is not a member of the United Nations, but holds observer status. Also, the head of a diplomatic mission is indeed accredited as the representative of one head of state to another. Frankly, your understanding of international relations is flawed. Please read the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.


I should have clarified that the Holy See is a member of the United Nations as a Permanent Observer. The only non-secular member state of the UN. Thus, the Holy See is accorded the right to establish diplommatic relations with other UN member states.

Again, international relations and diplomacy are conducted between and among nations/states, not between heads of states. I am quite acquainted with the 1961 Vienna Convention.

Re: American Named as Apostolic Nuncio to Ukraine [Re: Amadeus] #365913 06/24/11 10:36 AM
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The Holy See's right to establish diplomatic relations with states dates back to before the establishment of the United Nations. Therefore, there is no connection between the Holy See's Observer status at the United Nations and the Holy See's ancient right to have diplomatic relations with states.

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