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#365844 - 06/22/11 02:23 PM Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov
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This is one of many short video clips posted today on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtigIi9BnlM&feature=related

My dad preached a homily at this cathedral with the blessing of the Greek Catholic Bishop (who knew we were Orthodox) in the early 1990's on the occasion of the ordination of my cousin, Father Igor Bibko, who serves a Greek Catholic parish in Plsen, Czech Republic these days.

It is no small irony that one of the 39 priests ordained by Bishop Hirko that day is the new pastor of Holy Spirit Byzantine Catholic Church in Binghamton, NY - the first married priest there since the schism in our community of the 1930's.

As do most of us here, I pray for the day when our people may worship together with one voice and one heart in the external unity of faith. I do believe that this unity exists internally and is known to the Lord; our people have suffered greatly both in the USA and in Slovakia at the hands of those outside powers with their own agendas, yet we have persevered, fought the good fight and preserved our beloved traditions and our faith.

S'bohom!

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#365879 - 06/23/11 06:50 AM Re: Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov [Re: DMD]
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Very nice. Thank you, David, for posting it.

Many years,

Neil
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#365948 - 06/25/11 03:27 AM Re: Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov [Re: Irish Melkite]
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I don't know what the church shown in the videos is but it is not the Cathedral of St John the Baptist in Presov?

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#365952 - 06/25/11 10:22 AM Re: Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov [Re: bergschlawiner]
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I believe it it is the Cathedral, but shot from up in a choir loft, giving an unusual perspective from what most visitors would have.

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#365977 - 06/26/11 03:26 AM Re: Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov [Re: DMD]
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I've never had the blessing of visiting Presov, but I am inclined to agree with my brother, berg. The iconostasis doesn't look quite right versus other photos that I've seen on the eparchial site.

Compare http://www.grkatpo.sk/?fotogalerie&id=606 - which I believe is shot in the Cathedral - with the video.

In the video, there appear to be two vertically rectangular icons, one above the other, in the center - one aligned with the second tier and the other aligned with the smaller third and fourth tiers.

In the photo, the Last Supper icon is horizontally vertical and of the same height as other icons in the second tier.

The icons in the third and fourth tiers of the photo are also aligned horizontally - where those in the video are aligned vertically upward from the center. I don't think the photo angle could have created that effect.

Or, the photo I've linked is not of the cathedral ???

Many years,

Neil
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#365983 - 06/26/11 02:56 PM Re: Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov [Re: Irish Melkite]
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That photo is of another church, see bottom of the page and/or this link: http://www.grkatpo.sk/?spravy&id=1260

Prominent in the Prešov Cathedral (which I've only visited once, but noticed immediately) is that right above the royal door on the iconostasis is the coat-of-arms of the Archbishop. That can be made out also in the video.

I can't find any photos from top-down, but this set has good views of the iconostasis:
http://www.grkatpo.sk/?fotogalerie&id=108

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#365984 - 06/26/11 03:01 PM Re: Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov [Re: DMD]
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Following my previous reply, there is a view from the choir loft on the webkamera: http://www.grkatpo.sk/?webkamera

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#365986 - 06/26/11 03:25 PM Re: Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov [Re: DMD]
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Interior shots of the Cathedral:
http://www.grkatpo.sk/?fotogalerie&id=506

A view of the choir loft:
http://www.grkatpo.sk/pub/pic/fotogalerie/623/img_6939.jpg

The videos are attributed to the correct cathedral.

Dn. David

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#365994 - 06/26/11 11:37 PM Re: Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov [Re: DMD]
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Originally Posted By: Irish Melkite
Or, the photo I've linked is not of the cathedral ???


Yep, that would be the answer blush

Andrew and Deacon David,

Thanks to you both for the correction and the links confirming David's original comments.

Many years,

Neil
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#365999 - 06/27/11 03:03 AM Re: Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov [Re: Irish Melkite]
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Whenever I see photos from the Cathedral of St. John in Presov, I marvel at the efforts of the impoverished Rusyn immigrants from St. John's Church, then Greek Catholic, now ACROD Orthodox, of Perth Amboy, New Jersey who made certain that one of the first things that they would accomplish in America at the turn of the 20th century, was to build a temple to honor and replicate the grandest they knew in the old world. https://picasaweb.google.com/dmdrusyn/MetropolitanNicholasFiftieth?authkey=Gv1sRgCO2FvLGkw6XPcg The interior of St. John's in New Jersey closely replicates St. John's in Presov and the exterior is an homage to the famed pilgrimage church in Mariapoc, Hungary. https://picasaweb.google.com/dmdrusyn/Me...615775871596434

It is no wonder that such passion engulfed these men and women thirty years later when they felt that their beloved Eastern Rite was being challenged by the Roman Catholic hierarchs in America, in spite of the fact that they had lived side by side in Europe for over three hundred years as part of the Catholic faith united under the Popes.

I often marvel at the fact that we survive today, either as Eastern Catholics or Orthodox committed to still fight to preserve that patrimony which was bequeathed to us.

(Just as a side note, in the pictures from the 50th anniversary) if you look closely, you will see Bishop William of the BCC Eparchy of Passaic fully vested and in the nave of the Church during the liturgy. He is on the left, in front of the Icon of St. Nicholas.(I daresay that more than a few in attendance felt the movement of their grandfathers, as well as the late Bishop Takach, rolling in their graves!) Archbishop Demetrios of the Greek Orthodox Archdioces was in the nave in front of the Icon of St. John. This was surely a testament to the love and respect that the late Metropolitan Nicholas had among the Byzantine Catholics and was quite remarkable indeed.)

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#366002 - 06/27/11 05:29 AM Re: Greek Catholic Liturgy in Presov [Re: DMD]
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David, my friend,

Beautiful photos - both sets - including some very nice photos of your Dad.

And, indeed, the replication of the temple from their homeland was and is incredible given the economic circumstances in which these immigrants were. And, though often on a smaller, it's a story repeated, again and again, in parish histories describing the short periods often required for the raising of funds to build temples and the retirement of debt in the aftermath of having done so.

Many years,

Neil
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#366004 - 06/27/11 11:51 AM More from the St. John's in Presov [Re: Irish Melkite]
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More from Presov, St. John's posted last night. Protopenije...excepts, here is 'Mnohaja L'it.' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5bcBqFzpxI&feature=feedu


Edited by DMD (06/27/11 11:52 AM)

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